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Legend of Zelda timeline theories.
Topic Started: Jan 21 2007, 08:41 PM (551 Views)
Greth (OLD)
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If you have a different perspective, then share it. So far, I agree with the GT theory, as shown HERE
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Ocarina of Time is the first story, then the original Legend of Zelda, then Zelda II: The Adventure of Link, and finally A Link to the Past. It's not very clear where Link's Awakening fits in--it could be anytime after Ocarina of Time.


But my own personal theory is:

OoT -> MM -> TP -> TWW -> LA -> ALttP -> OoA/OoS -> LoZ -> AoL

I just wouldn't even include FS/FSA and TMC.

If you don't know the abbreviations, my bad.
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Before I explain my theory, I must first define what the word "Legend" means:

Legend: A legend is a story or tale that is considered history, yet isn't backed by evidence and is more like a myth. It cannot be proven, but essentially it is the line between History and Myth.

Now that we know this, what is the environment of Hyrule? It seems like a society in which medevial times reign and feudalism under kings is present. Taking this into account, paired with how tales in the story are never told in books, we can assume that history is passed down through oral tradition. What does this impact the story? Because it means that the games have become the telling of the same tale.

Think about it, why does every game seem to have refrences to the past? Ingo, Gorons, Death Mountain, Zora's Domain, Princess Zelda, Giant Goron, Epona, Heros in green, Ganon, Gannondorf, Gerudo Desert, Lake Hylia, Hyrule Castle, Master Sword, Great Faries, Bombs, Bows, Hookshots, Boomerangs, Instruments, Helpers (Midna, Navi, Tatl...), Temples, Triforce, Malon and Talon's Ranch, Kakariko, Kakario Graveyard, Lon Lon Milk, and the Courage/Wisdom/Power triforce distribution all tie the games together.

Also, because of Oral Tradition, it isn't too far a reach to say that the stories just got changed through time, and each is a different say on the same initial story. My biggest issue with all the games is the incoherent word maps. In one game, Hyrule castle faces south and the Zora's river flows up to it. YET, in Twilight Princess, the Zora's River flows South into Hyrule Castle. The maps of Hyrule change too much to be one solid map.

That's my theory.
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It's pretty much confirmed that most of the games contain a different 'Link' and a different 'Princess Zelda'.
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Jan 21 2007, 09:21 PM
It's pretty much confirmed that most of the games contain a different 'Link' and a different 'Princess Zelda'.

Which might prove me right, because the main character does indeed change in some shape or form. If it's a different "Link", than perhaps it is a different conception of the hero, and same for Zelda. Also, Link appears in different locations, meaning it might just be another mistold aspect to the tale.
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Jan 21 2007, 09:16 PM
Before I explain my theory, I must first define what the word "Legend" means:

Legend: A legend is a story or tale that is considered history, yet isn't backed by evidence and is more like a myth. It cannot be proven, but essentially it is the line between History and Myth.

Now that we know this, what is the environment of Hyrule? It seems like a society in which medevial times reign and feudalism under kings is present. Taking this into account, paired with how tales in the story are never told in books, we can assume that history is passed down through oral tradition. What does this impact the story? Because it means that the games have become the telling of the same tale.

Think about it, why does every game seem to have refrences to the past? Ingo, Gorons, Death Mountain, Zora's Domain, Princess Zelda, Giant Goron, Epona, Heros in green, Ganon, Gannondorf, Gerudo Desert, Lake Hylia, Hyrule Castle, Master Sword, Great Faries, Bombs, Bows, Hookshots, Boomerangs, Instruments, Helpers (Midna, Navi, Tatl...), Temples, Triforce, Malon and Talon's Ranch, Kakariko, Kakario Graveyard, Lon Lon Milk, and the Courage/Wisdom/Power triforce distribution all tie the games together.

Also, because of Oral Tradition, it isn't too far a reach to say that the stories just got changed through time, and each is a different say on the same initial story. My biggest issue with all the games is the incoherent word maps. In one game, Hyrule castle faces south and the Zora's river flows up to it. YET, in Twilight Princess, the Zora's River flows South into Hyrule Castle. The maps of Hyrule change too much to be one solid map.

That's my theory.

That's quite the theory, and it holds stead.

However, my opinion is still held by GT
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I dunno. The other theories don't seem to have all that backing and research like the one Tony posted.
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@Reaver: except they can't all be the same story with a different telling, such as majora's mask, wind waker, phantom hourglass, twilight princess. A lot of them make references to past Link's. Personally, I don't think Nintendo actually attempted a timeline and its all bs, but meh.
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Jan 21 2007, 09:40 PM
@Reaver: except they can't all be the same story with a different telling, such as majora's mask, wind waker, phantom hourglass, twilight princess. A lot of them make references to past Link's. Personally, I don't think Nintendo actually attempted a timeline and its all bs, but meh.

Except for the fact that Shigeru Miyamoto said in a Nintendo Power issue circa 93' that when he presented Zelda to Nintendo, he had made up a timeline and story too big for one game, much like how George Lucas conducted star wars. I doubt that he had written all the way to Twilight Princess, but up till Link's Awakening is a very strong possibility, as well as Ocarina of Time's initial inception. Nintendo probably just picked out their favorite, and most simplified section.
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@Reaver: except they can't all be the same story with a different telling, such as majora's mask, wind waker, phantom hourglass, twilight princess. A lot of them make references to past Link's. Personally, I don't think Nintendo actually attempted a timeline and its all bs, but meh.

Why not?

Phantom Hourglass: N/A, never played.

Twilight Princess: Hyrule, Zora's River, Zora's Domain, Kakariko Village, Bombs, Bows, Hookshot, Boomerang, Epona, Faries, Gerudo, Lake Hylia, Hyrule Castle Town, Zelda, Helper, Forest Temple, Water Temple, Gorons, Death Mountain, Iron Boots, Poes, Poes/Golden Skulltula Collection, Fishing Hole, Six Sages, Master Sword, Temple of Time, and Gannondorf.

Majora's Mask: Malon, Epona, Link, Deku, Gorons, Zora, Anju, Zora, Goron, Gerudo, Mask Man, Ingo, Lost Woods, Builders, Prancing Thief, Tingle, helper, Bombs, Bow, and Hookshot. (Granted, this one's funky, but it still fits the image ENOUGH to be considered a retelling, only different).

Wind Waker: Hookshot, Boomerang, Bow, Bomb, Hammer, Zelda, Ganon, Quiet Origins, Master Sword, Triforce, Courage/Power/Wisdom mix, magic instument, helper, Tingle, Light Arrows, Hyrule, Hyrule Castle, Volcano, Forest Temple, Shadow Temple, Wind Temple, knocked down hero*, and Joy Pendant/Golden Skulltula relationship.

Fits to me.

*Knocked Down Hero refers to the hero initially meeting Ganon, then getting knocked away because he's too weak at the time you get him at.
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meh, w/e, I don't think the games are supposed to have some big picture.

speaking of zelda, what zelda games have you guys not beaten? For me it's zelda (working on vc version), zelda2, link's awakening, oracle of seasons (beat ages though), and windwaker(started, never finished).

That gives me something to work toward I suppose.
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i beat em all except minish cap. havent played it
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Jan 21 2007, 10:01 PM
speaking of zelda, what zelda games have you guys beaten?

I know I changed the words a little bit, but this is easier for me.

Link's Awakening
Oracle of Seasons
Oracle of Ages
Ocariana of Time/Master Quest
Majora's Mask
Wind Waker
Twilight Princess... ALMOST

Luke: Mine doesn't need research and proof. You have the definition of legend and you have the overwhelming similarities. It's not necessarily bad.
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Jan 22 2007, 03:02 AM
i beat em all except minish cap. havent played it

Eh, it's not that great, and has little effect on the timeline theory, IMO.
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