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| Inui | Jan 31 2007, 06:30 PM Post #136 |
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Power of Flower
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N00b enemies have 0 LUK to counteract Hawkeye's 40+ base critical not even counting a killer axe that makes it like 70+. |
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| Phoenix Wright | Jan 31 2007, 06:38 PM Post #137 |
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that moron that forgot this is s11
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Correct, he's at 20/10, more or less; he'll be sapping the Exp of the party if you actively use him enough to get him to 20/15+. And when he doesn't critical he doesn't kill. That Killer Axe ain't there for long and when it ain't there he's got a good 36% chance of not killing. Oh, and he won't kill reall sturdy enemies even with a critical. Louise is fail. Geitz, not Rath, is her competition, and Geitz >> Supported Louise. Pent wants a Hawkeye support? No, he wants his Canas support first, since Canas > Hawkeye and Canas's affinity >> Hawkeye's affinity. |
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| C475_1337 | Jan 31 2007, 06:49 PM Post #138 |
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One serious d00d
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??/15 Louise 34.6 Hp 16.4 Str 18.4 Skl 21.4 Spd 19.3 Luck 11.2 Def 15.3 Res 6 Con A Pent B Hawkeye 20/10 Rebecca 37.8 Hp 18.2 Str 20.0 Skl 23.7 Spd 18.0 Luck 9.2 Def 11.4 Res 6 Con A Lowen B Raven I even gave Louise a big level lead for no reason at all and she’s still obviously losing. Raisability? Note that I said: Purely statistically speaking, at least.
No, his Guy support most definitely exists. Normally I’d mention that Guy is a meh kind of unit, but since we’re using Louise here and Guy > Louise(not to mention, you like to put Guy in the top ten)…… 20/10 Rath 45.6 Hp 21.0 Str 18.8 Skl 22.0 Spd 11.6 Luck 12.2 Def 10.5 Res 8 Con A Guy Louise phails here too. Everyone can support, the fact that Louise can isn’t helping her crap stats. Maybe if she was the only unit that can support, but that’s clearly not the case.
Spd is indeed the most important stat. No one’s overrating it. And if Hawkeye was awesome at everything else, then yeah, he’d still be good. Look at Hector and Oswin, their Spd is low, and they’re still good. Except, Hawkeye’s other stats aren’t good. Unimpressive at both Def and Avo, and when you couple that with being locked to a single weapon type, you get unimpressive defense. Str is only middling, so when you couple it with garbage Spd, you get bad offense. I might even go so far as to argue that a trained Dorcas > Hawkeye. At Hawkeye’s base LvL, Dorcas is behind by 1-2 points in Hp, Spd and Def, but also has moar Str, Bows, and will actually have Supports(most likely with Oswin). Hawkeye most likely isn't getting any supports at all, and if he does, he's not getting much out of 'em with his garbage affinity. |
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Reikken: I'm halfway through reading it, but it's so bad; I can't finish. --- Inui: You say Ilia holds more weight, but I don't, since Shin >>> Pegs and Sacae is more fun due to enemies that aren't fail and not having to move through forests all day. --- SACAE. It's more fun than Ilia. | |
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| Inui | Jan 31 2007, 08:16 PM Post #139 |
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I'm still not convinced since I see that support triangle destroy everything very easily and never die. |
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| Phoenix Wright | Jan 31 2007, 08:21 PM Post #140 |
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I'm not convinced Karla's bad, she just one-rounded three HM Warriors. See where this is going? |
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| Inui | Jan 31 2007, 08:24 PM Post #141 |
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The PentHawkeyeLouise trio has consistently demolished all enemies as well as survived any onslaught of enemies in every playthrough I've used the trio together. It's not as simple as "Karla killed three Warriors with lucky criticals" like you're making it seem like. |
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| C475_1337 | Jan 31 2007, 09:46 PM Post #142 |
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Ya ya ya, good for you. Personal Experience/10. |
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Reikken: I'm halfway through reading it, but it's so bad; I can't finish. --- Inui: You say Ilia holds more weight, but I don't, since Shin >>> Pegs and Sacae is more fun due to enemies that aren't fail and not having to move through forests all day. --- SACAE. It's more fun than Ilia. | |
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| Phoenix Wright | Jan 31 2007, 09:50 PM Post #143 |
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Well, so much for the Karla Chronicles, that works fine. |
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| Inui | Jan 31 2007, 09:51 PM Post #144 |
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From a statistical viewpoint, they are vastly superior to every enemy you encounter by several times when supported together. |
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| Phoenix Wright | Jan 31 2007, 09:57 PM Post #145 |
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No, they're not, Hawkeye's Critical ain't enough to offset his bad defence and offence without them and Louise is simply too weak to reliably damage without a critical. |
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| Inui | Jan 31 2007, 10:00 PM Post #146 |
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Haven't exactly encountered a situation where the trio couldn't decimate everything. |
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| C475_1337 | Jan 31 2007, 10:28 PM Post #147 |
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So's the vast majority, if not all, of PCs in FE7. Who caers. If these three can rape, then most other units can rape better. |
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Reikken: I'm halfway through reading it, but it's so bad; I can't finish. --- Inui: You say Ilia holds more weight, but I don't, since Shin >>> Pegs and Sacae is more fun due to enemies that aren't fail and not having to move through forests all day. --- SACAE. It's more fun than Ilia. | |
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| Light Yagami | Jan 31 2007, 10:37 PM Post #148 |
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As dog as a Fetch
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QFT If those three can rape the enemies (most of the other units could, if not then they could do better) As I've said before, even Isadora overpowers most other enemies w/o supports |
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| Marth-chan | Feb 1 2007, 12:42 PM Post #149 |
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The one who knows nothing, but wishes to learn.
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Isn't Isadora supposed to over power enemies? She's a Paladin, they're supposed to have good ATK. |
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| Hatake Asuka | Feb 1 2007, 01:51 PM Post #150 |
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Gakutorishiusu
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What are you talking about? Isadora's strength is pretty bad, but even she can overpower the enemies. That's what Light Yagami meant. |
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