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Magic users!; ((Because this place needs moar debaet))
Topic Started: Jan 29 2007, 08:10 PM (1,629 Views)
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that moron that forgot this is s11

OK, good. I couldn't help but think that somehow I made it worse. >_>
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Fraulein Holls
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Some Kind Of Monster - Metallica

>> Metallica wub all of a sudden

Say, I know a member currently going by Ron DeLite who also loves Metallica, you two should totally hook up.
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Well, you ARE WJC's defective clone after all, so think that is logical >_>
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Jordan says:
NO. I'M A WOMAN. I'M NEVER SATISFIED

Weird as fuck, isnt he?
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Needs moar Sety

Vegeta
Jan 30 2007, 05:02 AM
I've never been good at being kind to newer people, but I can at least give a vague reason why he's wrong.

Using only averages is a very bad way of determining a unit's worth. Usefulness in-game is what matters, and Nino is trash while Pent is a god when you consider that.

I meant that I decided between Athos and Renult based on averages. If you know what your doing, you can have Nino be spectacular, at no penalty against your other units. Besides, I never liked Pent B|
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Soren
Jan 31 2007, 03:20 AM
Vegeta
Jan 30 2007, 05:02 AM
I've never been good at being kind to newer people, but I can at least give a vague reason why he's wrong.

Using only averages is a very bad way of determining a unit's worth.  Usefulness in-game is what matters, and Nino is trash while Pent is a god when you consider that.

I meant that I decided between Athos and Renult based on averages. If you know what your doing, you can have Nino be spectacular, at no penalty against your other units. Besides, I never liked Pent B|

Because Nino is useful right?
Pent>>>Nino.
Dorcas>Nino
Renault>Nino

Nino is craptastic.
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AdamNW
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Light Yagami
Jan 31 2007, 03:27 AM
Soren
Jan 31 2007, 03:20 AM
Vegeta
Jan 30 2007, 05:02 AM
I've never been good at being kind to newer people, but I can at least give a vague reason why he's wrong.

Using only averages is a very bad way of determining a unit's worth.  Usefulness in-game is what matters, and Nino is trash while Pent is a god when you consider that.

I meant that I decided between Athos and Renult based on averages. If you know what your doing, you can have Nino be spectacular, at no penalty against your other units. Besides, I never liked Pent B|

Because Nino is useful right?
Pent>>>Nino.
Dorcas>Nino
Renault>Nino

Nino is craptastic.

Nino is plenty useful for my play style, which apparently isn't used by almost everyone here.

Wow, no love for Ests? Ouch.
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Ests require to much effort.

HOWEVER, do not forget, the original Est came with OMFGWTFH4X for bases, in a chapter with an Arena.

Nino has neither. And totally isnt worth it.
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Jordan says:
NO. I'M A WOMAN. I'M NEVER SATISFIED

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I'd actually say that Nino>Renault. She can help your EXP rank at least.
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TheRoadtoDawn
Jan 31 2007, 03:35 AM
I'd actually say that Nino>Renault. She can help your EXP rank at least.

5 Con. Starts at Level 5

Renault joins late , yeah but His Con and Def are pretty badass for a Bishop in FE7 and he joins with Fortify and Devine, along with that runebarrierIdon'tuseitanyway crap.

Nino comes with ELFYRE!!1
Renault aslo has a better backstory

Nino...

"ZOMG BLACKFANGELOL!!!1
WTF SONYAZ NAT MY MOMMA AAAAGH
*SNIFF*SNIFF
PISSMOANWHINE"
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You forgot 'JAFFAR HAVE MAH BABIEZ!' >_>
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Jordan says:
NO. I'M A WOMAN. I'M NEVER SATISFIED

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Jan 31 2007, 03:34 AM
Ests require to much effort.

HOWEVER, do not forget, the original Est came with OMFGWTFH4X for bases, in a chapter with an Arena.

Nino has neither. And totally isnt worth it.

Not really. Especially Nino, since you have a whole gaiden chapter to level her up. Since my strategy has all my units stay at equal levels, Nino is really the only reason I choose to go to Night of Farewells. My units are usually 20/2-20/4 (save for Eliwood/Hector of course) during Night of Farewells/Cog of Destiny, so they can weaken the units while Nino bashes away (or if I'm lazy, mine trick FTW B| )
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Nino still lacks two of the factors that made Est worth it.

And she requires insane babying (A ENTIRE CHAPTER worth of exp, as you say) for what? Overkill stats where Pent still 1-rounds, and Erk does too, plenty of the time?
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Jordan says:
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Jan 31 2007, 03:44 AM
Nino still lacks two of the factors that made Est worth it.

And she requires insane babying (A ENTIRE CHAPTER worth of exp, as you say) for what? Overkill stats where Pent still 1-rounds, and Erk does too, plenty of the time?

Anyone can OHKO an enemy in FE7. Nino also has a higher growth in every stat over pent, besides Defense. She also get some more levels in chapter 26, so she may not have to kill all the units in 26x. An A in staves means nothing for sages, because they weren't meant for that. If there weren't any healers in FE7, then Pent would be the most useful mage in the game, no doubt.
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A in staves means nothing?

>_>

Since WHEN? There ARE staves over E-rank you know, and Nino wont be using any of em.

And Nino's growth are higher? No shit, Pent's a prepromo.
Nino still takes till post-promo, which, unless you feed the girl exp like cake to a hungry african, wont happen.
She takes alot of effort (weakening, killstealing), just to get up to par with Pent.
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Jordan says:
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Soren
Jan 31 2007, 03:52 AM
SirHakado
Jan 31 2007, 03:44 AM
Nino still lacks two of the factors that made Est worth it.

And she requires insane babying (A ENTIRE CHAPTER worth of exp, as you say) for what? Overkill stats where Pent still 1-rounds, and Erk does too, plenty of the time?

Anyone can OHKO an enemy in FE7. Nino also has a higher growth in every stat over pent, besides Defense. She also get some more levels in chapter 26, so she may not have to kill all the units in 26x. An A in staves means nothing for sages, because they weren't meant for that. If there weren't any healers in FE7, then Pent would be the most useful mage in the game, no doubt.

Lawl


Ok first of all the argument of
"they weren't ment to be healers" is a flawed one. Heroes aren't ment to be fighters so I guess they shouldn't wield axes and Warriors aren't ment to use bows so God forbid we have Geitz kill off some Wyvern Lords.

Secondly. Pent > Serra, Priscilla. Pent's A in staves is A BONUS. The healers can't fight until they promote and once they do they'll be stuck with mediocre Magic and Con thus making Pent the superior Fighter.

Finally, you highly underestimate the enemies in the game. "Any unit can 1HKO" is FALSE. This isn't the FE8 baord, just to let you know.


ps. Any fucking idiot can level up Nino succesfuly but she's still pretty damn usless.
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Soren
Jan 30 2007, 10:52 PM
Anyone can OHKO an enemy in FE7. Nino also has a higher growth in every stat over pent, besides Defense. She also get some more levels in chapter 26, so she may not have to kill all the units in 26x. An A in staves means nothing for sages, because they weren't meant for that. If there weren't any healers in FE7, then Pent would be the most useful mage in the game, no doubt.

No. Everything you said is wrong. Nino is absolutely worthless and has no place on your team.

For what purpose? Final chapter power? Athos is better than her in that aspect thanks to better stats and Forblaze.

Pent having all of that staff utility adds to his usefulness, regardless of whether you believe he's "meant" for it or not.
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