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Magic users!; ((Because this place needs moar debaet))
Topic Started: Jan 29 2007, 08:10 PM (1,625 Views)
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well nino is good when you don't care about rated, have enough time babying. only then she will turn out to be a great unit in endgame. but statistically and uselfullnes is Pent >>>> nino

she would be much better if she comes like 10 chapters earlier
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@Hatake: And then whilst vaguely supporting him with Ninian, you use that critical dance on him... OHSHI-
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that moron that forgot this is s11

Hawkeye is pretty bad. ;>_>
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Fraulein Holls
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Some Kind Of Monster - Metallica

>> Metallica wub all of a sudden

Say, I know a member currently going by Ron DeLite who also loves Metallica, you two should totally hook up.
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Jan 31 2007, 06:24 AM
With her bonuses from A Pent and B Hawkeye in that triangle, she's easily better than every other bow user in the game.

Are you kidding? One, Hawkeye is garbage, two, you're dead wrong anyway. Purely statistically speaking, at least.
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Jan 31 2007, 05:28 PM
Vegeta
Jan 31 2007, 06:24 AM
With her bonuses from A Pent and B Hawkeye in that triangle, she's easily better than every other bow user in the game.

Are you kidding? One, Hawkeye is garbage, two, you're dead wrong anyway. Purely statistically speaking, at least.

No.

Wil and Rebecca are useless since Wil is slow and Rebecca is basically in the same boat as Wolt when it comes to raisability, if that's a word...

Rath, meh. His supports don't exist. Supported Louise > Rath.

What's wrong with Hawkeye?

OMG BAD SPD.

Yet...amazing everywhere else.

You overrate SPD too much. :hmm:
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OMG
I leave for two weeks and come back to this. Geez. You guys don't make it easy to read through all your posts. Though it certainly was action packed. :ninja:

I think, the creators of FE threw Nino in there for kicks. I personally like using Nino, I considered using her in the final chapter but decided on Serra instead (bad move on my part, the Dragon killed her). I suppose you'd have to be a mother or something (not that I am) to understand why any one would want to level up a weaker character even when they get a better character later in the game. Let's say you do babysit Nino and get her to a high level, let's say 20/10. Don't you feel the satisfaction of leveling a character from level 5 to 20/10? DOn't you feel like you're a better player because you prevented her from getting killed and worked hard to get her endgame stats? That's how I feel about her. It's also the reason I don't like using Jaffar, Pent or most other pre-promoted units. Another thing, a unit you level up your self, you know that unit like you know the back of your hand. Their consistancies, their advantages and disadvantages. The ones you encounter during game play, not the ones you read about opnline.

Therefore, my listing (not including Athos, I wouldn't know where to put him): Erk and Lucius > Canas > Serra, Priscilla and Nino > Renault

I personally think Serra and Priscilla are equals. I like putting both of them into my lineup, especially when I need to split my team up. One group would go one way with one of the healers and the other group will go the other way. Nino isn't my favorite unit, either, but she does add punch after she's leveled up. I'm not fond of Renault, he's a great unit, I understand that. His avoid need work though, he's always getting hit when I use him. Canas is slow, that's why he's not up there with Erk and Lucius.

Hawkeye isn't that bad a unit. He's a bit over-powered, but he does have a decent evade in my game. He does get a good amount of criticals also, but not as much as Lyn. I don't think he gets much use, but he does add to the team when you do. :3

But that's just me. Please don't set a dragon on me for thinking this way.
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How does Lyn get more criticals than Hawkeye?
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Lyn usually gets a critical 2 out of 3 attacks. Hawkeye will get a critical half of the time.
But that's just my game. Maybe it's different with yours?
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Vegeta
Jan 31 2007, 04:32 PM
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Vegeta
Jan 31 2007, 06:24 AM
With her bonuses from A Pent and B Hawkeye in that triangle, she's easily better than every other bow user in the game.

Are you kidding? One, Hawkeye is garbage, two, you're dead wrong anyway. Purely statistically speaking, at least.

No.

Wil and Rebecca are useless since Wil is slow and Rebecca is basically in the same boat as Wolt when it comes to raisability, if that's a word...

Rath, meh. His supports don't exist. Supported Louise > Rath.

What's wrong with Hawkeye?

OMG BAD SPD.

Yet...amazing everywhere else.

You overrate SPD too much. :hmm:

You underrate Speed too much if anything. The claim that Speed is his only downfall is not true, either. Le's look at this:

Health: Not gonna tap that, it's good.

Strength: 20.4 Strength is pretty bad. Axes make his attack decent, I suppose, but his offence is horrible anyway because of his Speed.

Skill: Who caers.

Speed: Hawkeye's Speed at 20/10 is an astoundingly low 12.5. LOL, Oswin is better than that.

Luck: 15.4 is average. Not bad, but his physical durability is worse than, say, Raven's, since Raven's Speed gives him a good 23 more Avoid in exchange for a negligible-compared-to-that loss in Def and Lck.

Defence: 15.4 is, again, pretty average. High HP is the only thing saving him from outright phailure defenses.

Resistance: Who caers.

Con: Who caers after 15 here. The Brave Axe is certainly usable, but if he needs Brave weapons to reliably double, I'll take someone that doesn't, thanks.
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Fraulein Holls
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Some Kind Of Monster - Metallica

>> Metallica wub all of a sudden

Say, I know a member currently going by Ron DeLite who also loves Metallica, you two should totally hook up.
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rofl Chris
 
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Because a unit that starts at 20/4 in Chapter 23 will be 20/10 and not 20/15+ at the lategame. Right.
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20/15

Hp: Duh, still good.

Str: 22.8 Whoopdedoo?

Skl: Noone cares.

Spd: 13.8. Wow, sweet speed? *Cough*

Def: 16.8, still not all that hawt.

Res: Noone cares >_>

Luck: 17.4 Decent, but his avoid still aint exactly special.
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1. RES matters when Hawkeye's is basically legendary for a melee unit.

2. Supports count.
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Louise and Hawkeye only shine when used as a threesome with Pent.

So no, they dont exactly count.

And Hawkeye's offence is still not good considering he wont double.
And sure, his Res is good. Yaye?
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wtf is with the "who cares" on SKL?

He's freakin stuck to axes, I think skill carries just a LITTLE weight.
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His Skl is good enough for hit rates not to matter much.
And supports, since if you're using him, he'll need to be supported to be worth fielding.
He gets full Hit from all three support partners he has >_>
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