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| Tweet Topic Started: Feb 23 2007, 11:45 PM (958 Views) | |
| C475_1337 | Feb 23 2007, 11:45 PM Post #1 |
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Mainly between Hector, Oswin, Raven, Ninian. I think it's either Raven or Ninian. |
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Reikken: I'm halfway through reading it, but it's so bad; I can't finish. --- Inui: You say Ilia holds more weight, but I don't, since Shin >>> Pegs and Sacae is more fun due to enemies that aren't fail and not having to move through forests all day. --- SACAE. It's more fun than Ilia. | |
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| Light Yagami | Feb 23 2007, 11:48 PM Post #2 |
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Are you kidding>? Um...I'm inclined to say Hector. Even when he doesn't promote, he still holds a good chance at taking on a group of enemy units in later chapters at just level 20/0 ...But I also like Raven and I admit, Oswin is pretty 1337 |
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| C475_1337 | Feb 24 2007, 12:04 AM Post #3 |
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If it weren't for that late promotion, Hector would probably take it. But the late promotion is indeed there, and a promoted Oswin or Raven is clearly superior to a 20/0 Hector. |
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Reikken: I'm halfway through reading it, but it's so bad; I can't finish. --- Inui: You say Ilia holds more weight, but I don't, since Shin >>> Pegs and Sacae is more fun due to enemies that aren't fail and not having to move through forests all day. --- SACAE. It's more fun than Ilia. | |
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| Admin | Feb 24 2007, 12:13 AM Post #4 |
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There is a light that never goes out...
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Hector is more useful than all other units in HHM because he can capture Thrones, and thus complete chapters... In Eliwood Modes, Hector is easily the best other than Eliwood, who is needed to cap thrones. In Hector modes, if don't include capturing thrones... I dunno. Earlygame and parts of midgame till he hits 20/0, Hector is one of your best. Late game after he promotes, he is the best again... I'd actually give it to Oswin being the best overall in Hector modes. |
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| Michael | Feb 24 2007, 12:24 AM Post #5 |
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I gotta say, Hector. Even with a later promotion, he is better for more chapters than Oswin or Raven. I would actually rate Eliwood second best, right behind Hector. Oswin is great early to mid game, but I find Generals to be fairly useless late game. Raven is a good unit, but there is no particular point where he is the best, and he can't use Axes as well as Harken. Ninian is a piece of shit and should have stayed dead. She was better that way. Hector<Eliwood<the rest |
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| Admin | Feb 24 2007, 12:30 AM Post #6 |
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There is a light that never goes out...
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Ninian is a dancer who can make your best units move again. She can essentially be any other unit on your team every turn. |
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| Light Yagami | Feb 24 2007, 12:34 AM Post #7 |
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I mostly use her for Fila's might |
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| Michael | Feb 24 2007, 12:40 AM Post #8 |
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Except that she can't help you hold a line or anything. She can be decently useful . . . though I would prefer have another good unit instead. I just really, really hate her as a character. And she is nowhere near the top most useful units. |
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| C475_1337 | Feb 24 2007, 12:54 AM Post #9 |
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Raven’s particular point where he is the best would be offense. Raven’s offense is the best in the game. Incidentally, Hector’s defense is not the best in the game(hai Oswin). And......”he can’t use Axes as well as Harken?” Not only is that false, it’s also totally irrelevant. And, Eliwood second best unit in the game? How do you figure that? Eliwood is a case where you can safely say “he is a good unit, but there is no particular point where he is the best.”
You don’t need Ninian to hold lines. There’s only one of her. If there were 11 Dancers and 1 Attacker, it would be a problem, but the reality is the opposite of that; you have plenty of line-holders and only one dancer. Anyway, when it comes to defense, Ninian is still easily one of your most valuable units. Ninis’s Grace provides you with a Win This Turn option; with that, even Lucius can take care of himself, and most units will become practically invulnerable.
She has more use than even these units, since she can perfectly emulate any one of them and take on its abilities, and then she also can emulate other units with different abilities if those are needed instead. She can’t counter on the enemy phase, but the Rings more than make up for that; you have 40+ units that can counterattack at one point or another, and only one who can use Rings. |
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Reikken: I'm halfway through reading it, but it's so bad; I can't finish. --- Inui: You say Ilia holds more weight, but I don't, since Shin >>> Pegs and Sacae is more fun due to enemies that aren't fail and not having to move through forests all day. --- SACAE. It's more fun than Ilia. | |
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| Psiwri | Feb 24 2007, 01:03 AM Post #10 |
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Too Many Words
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Oswinatoooooor |
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| Inui | Feb 24 2007, 01:05 AM Post #11 |
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Jedi = totally wrong. CATS outlined why. I'd say Marcus is a contender if we're talking HHM. We're talking rankings and such in HM, right? Marcus and Pent are definite contenders. |
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| Light Yagami | Feb 24 2007, 01:07 AM Post #12 |
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Actually, Eliwood isn't even considered "great". He's stuck with swords until promotion. The game is full of lance users, especially in the earlier chapters, where units really do prove their worth in that time. Late game shouldn't even be considered a factor since any unit can Pwn a group of enemy units later on. |
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| Inui | Feb 24 2007, 01:09 AM Post #13 |
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Power of Flower
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Um, no? Marcus is god in the earlygame, good in the midgame, then mediocre in the endgame. Dorcas, Isadora, and Karel also follow this pattern. Good at the start, then decline(some more rapidly than others) and become crap. |
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| Light Yagami | Feb 24 2007, 01:12 AM Post #14 |
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Lawl@ you agreed with me on that when I said Isadora isn't that bad considering she can take on a group of late game enemies by herself. Besides, I'm talking about How Eliwood is nowhere near being the second best unit in the game. and Eliwood is pretty much the oposite of your list. crap, mediocre, god. But hey anyone can be a god in the end. |
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| C475_1337 | Feb 24 2007, 01:16 AM Post #15 |
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No, I really can't see Marcus as a contender, because the only circumstances where he can even remotely dream of trying it are also the circumstances in which Hector unquestionably surpasses him. If a fifth possibility were added, yeah, it'd probably be Pent. |
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Reikken: I'm halfway through reading it, but it's so bad; I can't finish. --- Inui: You say Ilia holds more weight, but I don't, since Shin >>> Pegs and Sacae is more fun due to enemies that aren't fail and not having to move through forests all day. --- SACAE. It's more fun than Ilia. | |
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