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Best unit?; zomg clone topic
Topic Started: Feb 23 2007, 11:45 PM (963 Views)
Percival
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IMO Oswin>Hector.

At least he doesn't get a lategame promotion, but Hector does help EXP.
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Leo Aldwulf
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Mar 11 2007, 08:28 PM
...I'd have to go with Hector, because I never use Oswin. He's too slow, and for some reason, I don't like using the knight class. Just for the record, Eliwood is the weakest, worst unit ever. On the last level, I had him at level 20 and the boss dragon killed him with one attack.  :angry:

Personal experience, much?

Since the Dragon deals piercing damage, only HP and dodge should matter when it comes to survivability.

At 20/20, Eliwood has 52.4 HP and, with Durandal, has 52 Dodge.
At 20/20, Hector has 56.2 HP and, with Armads, 50 Dodge.

And since both die in two attacks, Eliwood's dodge lead, although minor, is more valuable than Hector's 4 HP.

Anyways, if this is ENM/EHM ranked, I say Eliwood, Raven, and Hector are the best units. Eliwood's high Mov will be allowing you to finish chapters faster and he's decent in combat parameters. Raven and Hector, for obvious reasons.

If this is HNM/HHM ranked, I say Hector, Raven, and Eliwood. Hector and Raven for obvious reasons. Eliwood because he's the only mounted unit that is able to carry Hector. Hector's low Mov is a bitch when it comes to seize the throne chapters.
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Inui
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The Dragon has 186 Hit, so neither of them are dodging.

Carrying Hector isn't worth much. He should be getting the boots, since no other unit needs them as much.
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C475_1337
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Ninian.
Reikken: I'm halfway through reading it, but it's so bad; I can't finish.

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Inui: You say Ilia holds more weight, but I don't, since Shin >>> Pegs and Sacae is more fun due to enemies that aren't fail and not having to move through forests all day.

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SACAE. It's more fun than Ilia.
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Inui
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Mar 12 2007, 03:17 PM
Ninian.

I think the "Ninian is the best unit" arguement has been shattered.

Good, but not THE best. Far from it.
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Raven. srsly.
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Vegeta
Mar 12 2007, 08:23 PM
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Mar 12 2007, 03:17 PM
Ninian.

I think the "Ninian is the best unit" arguement has been shattered.

Good, but not THE best. Far from it.

Um, since when? Simply saying it doesn't make it so.

Like Reikken said, if it's not Ninian, I'm voting for Raven.

But that's irrelevant either way. The point is that Ninian's stuck with 5 move for the whole game, just like Hector. Oswin too, for that matter(actually he has even less move before he promotes, but he'll almost certainly be promoted by the time you get the Boots).
Reikken: I'm halfway through reading it, but it's so bad; I can't finish.

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Inui: You say Ilia holds more weight, but I don't, since Shin >>> Pegs and Sacae is more fun due to enemies that aren't fail and not having to move through forests all day.

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SACAE. It's more fun than Ilia.
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Inui
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Ninian doesn't really benefit from supports as much as other units due to no attacking, and units that support with her get shafted in the lategame when she's gone.

Not best. That's for sure. Nowhere near "best."
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C475_1337
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Ninian doesn't benefit from Atk Support? Oh, cry me a river. Like that makes any difference at all when her main purpose is much more useful than direct attacking anyway. Just because you don't want Ninian to be the best unit doesn't mean a thing.
Reikken: I'm halfway through reading it, but it's so bad; I can't finish.

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Inui: You say Ilia holds more weight, but I don't, since Shin >>> Pegs and Sacae is more fun due to enemies that aren't fail and not having to move through forests all day.

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SACAE. It's more fun than Ilia.
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Inui
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Mar 12 2007, 05:58 PM
Ninian doesn't benefit from Atk Support? Oh, cry me a river. Like that makes any difference at all when her main purpose is much more useful than direct attacking anyway. Just because you don't want Ninian to be the best unit doesn't mean a thing.

Ok.

How about how units that support her get totally shafted in the biggest chapters of the game? Not having as many supports as other units in Sands of Time, Victory or Death, and Light is a pretty big disadvantage.

That alone moves her far away from "best." If Nils kept her supports, then she could be the best unit.
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Therefore I conclude, Athos is garbage tier.
Reikken: I'm halfway through reading it, but it's so bad; I can't finish.

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Inui: You say Ilia holds more weight, but I don't, since Shin >>> Pegs and Sacae is more fun due to enemies that aren't fail and not having to move through forests all day.

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SACAE. It's more fun than Ilia.
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Ephraim the spearmaster
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Lol even though Athos is the best magic user, you dont get to play with him, or anything, so if RNG wishes to make Erk better than him, then so be it.
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Mar 12 2007, 06:04 PM
Therefore I conclude, Athos is garbage tier.

Athos isn't wasting support space. Ninian supports with numerous units that benefit from her, but then get totally shafted when she leaves. Eliwood, for instance, is a good option for her...but then Eliwood is shafted when she is gone, and left with only A Hector and pretty much nothing else for three of the biggest and hardest chapters.

Athos also has statistical superiority and S ranks in all magic types.

Ninian just flat-out wastes support space in the lategame.
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Ephraim the spearmaster
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But the fact that his stats stay the same every time, RNG could make Erk better than him, but eh not with the Magic Ability, S level on everything really does help, and I dont really like Erk anyway.
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Ephraim the spearmaster
Mar 12 2007, 06:22 PM
But the fact that his stats stay the same every time, RNG could make Erk better than him, but eh not with the Magic Ability, S level on everything really does help, and I dont really like Erk anyway.

RNG can't give Erk S Dark, S Light, S Staves, the ability to use Forblaze, 30 MAG, and 28 RES.
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