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| Tweet Topic Started: Feb 23 2007, 11:45 PM (962 Views) | |
| Ephraim the spearmaster | Mar 12 2007, 06:26 PM Post #46 |
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The spear king
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I already covered the S Ranked in everything. Forblaze is a PRF weapon so I wont count that. 30 Mag is over his max and 28 Res is also over his max. |
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| Inui | Mar 12 2007, 06:29 PM Post #47 |
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1. Athos will always deal more damage. 2. Athos can use Luna at an S rank. 3. Forblaze > any Anima spell Erk can possibly use. 4. Aureola > anything Erk could possibly use vs Nergal/Druids/status staves. 5. Athos will always have more RES. Even if Erk is RNG blessed, Athos > Erk in the final chapter. |
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| Ephraim the spearmaster | Mar 12 2007, 06:30 PM Post #48 |
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I guess so. Eh Athos > Erk, . |
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| C475_1337 | Mar 12 2007, 08:07 PM Post #49 |
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One serious d00d
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Sure he is. If he wasn't forced onto you, I could replace him with a different unit who's capable of supporting. But, *gasp*, Athos manages to be god tier despite that. Ninian too. wtfh4x. How does that work? 1. It's three chapters(and no, those aren't among the game's hardest; later chapters tend to be the easier ones). 2. It's not a significant drawback during said three chapters(Pent's wasting 3 Support Ranks for the entire time you've got him, and no one's crying over that). The units that supported with Ninian aren't getting "shafted," they're losing two or three Support Ranks. "Shafted" is what happens to Hector when he hits 20/0 long before The Berserker, and no one is crying about that, either. 3. It's an absolute joke to use as an argument when Ninian brings something so powerful to the team. Just because you don't want Ninian to be the best unit doesn't mean a thing. |
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Reikken: I'm halfway through reading it, but it's so bad; I can't finish. --- Inui: You say Ilia holds more weight, but I don't, since Shin >>> Pegs and Sacae is more fun due to enemies that aren't fail and not having to move through forests all day. --- SACAE. It's more fun than Ilia. | |
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| Inui | Mar 12 2007, 08:46 PM Post #50 |
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I don't see how Ninian is the best. She still has those flaws. She still wastes support slots. Athos and Pent aren't THE best units. Ninian is? No. She has flaws. She leaves for three rather large chapters and wastes support space in those chapters. Raven and Oswin are better, that's for sure. |
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| Reikken | Mar 12 2007, 08:52 PM Post #51 |
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Oswin also has flaws. Raven, too, but not as much as Oswin. |
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NP: Symphonic Rain http://myanimelist.net/animelist/Reikken http://www.last.fm/user/Reikken | |
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| Inui | Mar 12 2007, 09:00 PM Post #52 |
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Really? Like...? Low movement? 1 less than other units isn't an issue when you have Ninian/Nils around, can use Warp/Rescue, and other stuff to make up for it. Speed? Nope. 17 SPD is enough to double almost everything in Victory or Death.
Gets Doubled by: 1 Swordmaster that does 0 damage. Doubles: ~77% of all enemies. Yeah, I'm definitely not complaining about his SPD. Especially when he OHKOs those Valkyries with good weapons, anyways. |
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| Hollie | Mar 12 2007, 09:16 PM Post #53 |
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For the record, I'd say Hector was the best unit. Sure, in HM he promotes late, but I've never had much of a problem getting him up to par. Oswin . . . I hate Oswin. He has Def . . . and nothing else. Yay Oswin. |
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| Inui | Mar 12 2007, 09:25 PM Post #54 |
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Oswin has above average to amazing: HP, STR, DEF, RES Huh? |
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| Admin | Mar 12 2007, 09:25 PM Post #55 |
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There is a light that never goes out...
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Oswin has just about everything other than MOV. |
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| Light Yagami | Mar 12 2007, 09:48 PM Post #56 |
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As dog as a Fetch
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Meh, I tend to tush forward, killing everything in my path so its hard for me to chose Lowen when I can use a mounted unit. Its just me though. Oswin is the shiznt, but Hector rapes RAPES all those early lance users that Lowen just weakens. (I'm a bit biased of early game pwners) |
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| Inui | Mar 12 2007, 09:50 PM Post #57 |
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Lowen? You mean Oswin, right? Oswin is good at baiting enemies in for your other units to get kills. They need the EXP more. |
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| Light Yagami | Mar 12 2007, 09:54 PM Post #58 |
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As dog as a Fetch
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Woops, sorry I did mean Oswin. Had Lowen on my mind |
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| Reikken | Mar 12 2007, 11:02 PM Post #59 |
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Wtf, those are some pretty crappy enemy AS values. What mode is that? And also, wtf? You say that Wil has bad spd, but that Oswin doesn't when his is like 3-4 less? |
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NP: Symphonic Rain http://myanimelist.net/animelist/Reikken http://www.last.fm/user/Reikken | |
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| Inui | Mar 12 2007, 11:06 PM Post #60 |
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It's hard mode. You will never, ever, EVER see me use normal mode numbers. I loathe normal modes to no end. Wil's SPD is crap until that point in the game. He NEEDS to double to kill. Without doubling, he will NOT kill. Period. No strong/effective weapons to make him able to OHKO, and his STR is not high enough for such anyways. He doubles a bit after promotion, but he's not a good doubler until the lategame, really. =/ |
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