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Which characters fall into the Low Tier category?; Debate stuffz
Topic Started: Mar 2 2007, 01:19 AM (1,775 Views)
C475_1337
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Hawkeye is not a "good" unit by any means. Bad class, bad stats, terrible Supports, the only thing he's missing is a terrible starting point(ala Nino/Sophia/Ewan/Knoll/etc.).

Jaffar's offense is not "good," either. Mediocre Str at best, locked to the worst offensive weapons, no Supports.
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Jaffar's offense is not "good," either. Mediocre Str at best, locked to the worst offensive weapons, no Supports.


I meant Assassin offence.
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Zuh? Assassin offence? What do you mean, Silencer Rate?
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Inui: You say Ilia holds more weight, but I don't, since Shin >>> Pegs and Sacae is more fun due to enemies that aren't fail and not having to move through forests all day.

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SACAE. It's more fun than Ilia.
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I just don't think they're bottem tier. I think they're around middle for thier skills. :hmm:
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Mar 2 2007, 11:43 PM
I just don't think they're bottem tier. I think they're around middle for thier skills. :hmm:

Yeah. I'm not saying HAWKEYE FOR TOP TIER or nothing. Just, y'know, they're better than you give than low tier.
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Zuh? Assassin offence? What do you mean, Silencer Rate?


And strength.

In a HHM Ranked playthrough he saves funds and is better than unpromoted thieves. If you promote them, they kill funds. Otherwise, it's Legault.
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Assassins dont have Steal. Thieves are better in a ranked run.
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Yes, and you're not going to want an assassin for your combat team.
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There isn't alot to steal, especially endgame. Stealing by then is overrated, when you get 30somethin k in that one side quest for funds. And you can use prepromotes, like Marcus, PentxLouise, and Harken to save even more funds.

There are more things to steal mid-game and in the beginning. Use Legault by then.

I mean lockpicking, which IMO gives more funds than stealing even will.

It's fine if a unit can fight. That's another advantage, since most of the chests have enemies around it. I'm not saying he should be fighting, but he can if something goes wrong.
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Mar 2 2007, 06:19 AM
Bartre
Dorcas
Isadora
Jaffar
Karel
Karla
Matthew
Nino
Rebecca
Renault
Wallace
Will


Anyone else? Anyone that iz 2 g00d 4 l0w tierz?

Bartre- He gets pretty well balanced in many many things and such. Just watch him perform with bows. He crits quite often with them.

Dorcas- He suks I do not see any reaason to use him unless that Bartre died and that you did not feel like sstarting over.

Isadora- Wow =O She actually dodges rather well.

Jaffar- Well I do not see any reason to use him much unless that you want the JaffarXNino ending. Use either one of your newly promoted thieves as one of them.

Karel- No Comment.

Karla- She is pretty difficult to level up as she starts at LV 5 and that she comes so late till it isn't even funny (Even later than Nino) that you barely get any chance to use her at all as she is not in Eliwoods game.

Matthew- If you want an Assasin then this guy is your man.

Nino- OMG she just maybe the bestest mage in the entire game. Just watch her cap in many many statistics once that she reaches LV20/10.
Rebecca- I would say that she is better than Wil because she grows a ton of speed and that she grows fair amounts of other statistics overtime. She is just as powerful as Dorothy pretty much.

Renault- He isn't even worth discussing. Honestly.
Wallace- He is not really a good unit in the NM as you aare forced to promote him at LV10. But In the HM dunno. Never used him yet in it.
Wil- This guy just may grow amazing ability in HP,Skill and Power more than Rebecca will. He is officially a great choice to use as he joins practically at the start of the game. (I'm talking about Lyn's mode) And that the statistics of Lyn's mode gets carried over to Eliwoods/Hectors' games afterwards which that is very very good as the characters in it can get promoted alot earlier than the others and that some of them actually turns into powerful fighters in the end. This would be Wil,Florina,Kent,and Erk.
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I don't agree with the Louise > Wil thing.
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Mar 2 2007, 11:12 PM
Bartre- ... He crits quite often with them.

lol...
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Nino- OMG she just maybe the bestest mage in the entire game. Just watch her cap in many many statistics once that she reaches LV20/10.

Once she reaches 20/10. As in, several chapters after the end of the game?






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I don't agree with the Louise > Wil thing.

I don't see it either...
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I mean, Wil has Lyn's mode, actuall support options, he's sturdy, and will be doubling soon enough thanks to his 7 Con and light bows. I mean isn't it the same as the whole Alan/Lance thing :richie:


And uh...Lawl@ "OMG she just maybe the bestest mage in the entire game."
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Percival
Mar 3 2007, 01:47 AM
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Zuh? Assassin offence? What do you mean, Silencer Rate?


And strength.

In a HHM Ranked playthrough he saves funds and is better than unpromoted thieves. If you promote them, they kill funds. Otherwise, it's Legault.

Well, Jaffar's 20 Str cap + Swords isn't impressing anyone, and neither is his maximum 10% natural Silencer Rate. Use Matt if you want an offensive Assassin, though that's a stupid thing to do.

"Saves funds" provides no incentive for me to give him a spot on the team. He's not good enough at fighting to land a place based on combat ability. Unpromoted thieves are better than him at raw utility. Jaffar has no place on the team, no niche that he can effectively fill.

I also fail to see how Louise > Wil or Rebecca.
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Here is the imported difference of Louise,Wil,and Rebeccas' growths and here they are.....

Louise

HP B
ATK A
SKILL A
SPD A
DEF B
RES B
LUCK B

Rebecca

HP B
ATK A
SKILL A
SPD S
DEF C
RES B
LUCK A


Wil

HP A
ATK A
SKILL A
SPD A
DEF B
RES B
LUCK A

It looks as though Louise would be a great choice if you are using Pent and that Rebecca would be only good for dodge but cannot pwn worth crap with the bows much and that Wil here seems to have the greatest of the three choices to be selected as the offcial bow unit even though Rath could be better because of more movement and that he can use swords in addition to bows during Nomadic Trooper class.
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