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Which characters fall into the Low Tier category?; Debate stuffz
Topic Started: Mar 2 2007, 01:19 AM (1,771 Views)
Light Yagami
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All you need is 18 or so Spd and you can never have enough Strngth and HP. So a fully supported Louise beats a Non-supported Wil in terms of Def. Wow, simply amazing. I mean she gets a 3 Def lead but Wil still has the amazing HP and Strngth Lead.
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Percival
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Knights aren’t even 10% of all enemies. Even if they all had 0 Spd, which they don’t, they can’t affect the average so much that it’s 6 with them included and 10 or something without. And even 10 AS is still doubled by a Wil who is at Louise’s base LvL.


Louise comes in the endgame. I don't think enemies have 6 AS endgame.

Anyways, Wil isn't probably getting to Louise's lvl, unless you don't use Louise. This is HM and Wil is underlvled.

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Wil’s Silver Bow. He is killing everything but Vaida…

Everyone has good offense with a Silver Weapon. Big surprise. I’m more interested in the characters who don't need such fancy equipment to kill everything.


Well no shit.

But you didn't prove anything about Louise not killing everything in her chapter but Vaida...

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There's one problem with that. Erk will support Pent and Priscilla before he supports Louise, and both of those are almost guaranteed to be played.


At least Louise has supports. Louise still has the Defence lead regardless of Erk.

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Regardless this doesn't matter. Both of these are worthless defensively(due to lack of a melee counter), so defense is not nearly as important with them as offense. And Wil's clearly winning offense; 5-6 Str >>> 1-2 Spd, easily. Especially when FE7 enemies are the slowest enemies in all of the American FEs.


Not when Wil cannot DA for a long while, which means less lvls, which means...I give up...I don't wanna repeat...Wil's speed is subpar for the whole game. Louise starts with good speed and will be a few lvls higher. Get over it.

Oh yeah, and FE8 has the slowest enemies.

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All you need is 18 or so Spd and you can never have enough Strngth and HP. So a fully supported Louise beats a Non-supported Wil in terms of Def. Wow, simply amazing. I mean she gets a 3 Def lead but Wil still has the amazing HP and Strngth Lead.


Read my whole post. Wil doesn't get defence from anything even supports, yet you try to say he lives easier.

Wil is crap because he needs training to be good. He can't DA in a long while. Idc about his offensive lead. Louise can do the same thing with Steel. That's why he is low tier.

Louise's defensive leads are irreplacable, unless you Dragonshield Wil. Yet I am concerened of units that don't need it. And as a bonus, you don't need to baby her. Hmm...she is mid-tier originally?

Louise>Wil.
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Nick
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Wil is crap because he needs training to be good.
Lovely phrasing there.
OKs 4 lief
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Inui
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Louise doesn't need Silver. She kills 85-90% of all enemies from her joining point onward with Iron/Steel. =/

Her triangle utility with Pent and Hawkeye is too top tier.

BUT! Yeah, let's make her low tier. B)


Bartre
Dart
Dorcas
Isadora
Jaffar
Karel
Karla
Louise
Matthew
Nino
Rebecca
Renault
Wallace
Will


We need a few more to be put on that list to have a 16 person bracket. =/
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Well, there's Hawkeye, like I've said already. Perhaps Vaida.
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Inui
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Mar 9 2007, 06:31 PM
Well, there's Hawkeye, like I've said already. Perhaps Vaida.

Sure! Let's low tier Hawkeye and Vaida, too!

Shotty Hawkeye for a rematch with someone. :tom:


Bartre
Dart
Dorcas
Hawkeye
Isadora
Jaffar
Karel
Karla
Louise
Matthew
Nino
Rebecca
Renault
Vaida
Wallace
Will


Any more?
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Leo Aldwulf
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Vaida's bases should compensate for her coming so late. I think Farina should be in there for draining your funds.
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Heath, his joining situation is too bad.
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Inui
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Mar 9 2007, 11:49 PM
Heath, his joining situation is too bad.

QFT.

Heath is sooooo terrible. :tom:
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There is a light that never goes out...

PLEASE PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD BOTTEM TIER HIM.
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Light Yagami
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Leo Aldwulf
Mar 10 2007, 04:38 AM
Vaida's bases should compensate for her coming so late. I think Farina should be in there for draining your funds.

Vaida's Spd is crap.
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Light Yagami
Mar 10 2007, 12:40 AM
Leo Aldwulf
Mar 10 2007, 04:38 AM
Vaida's bases should compensate for her coming so late. I think Farina should be in there for draining your funds.

Vaida's Spd is crap.

So is Wil's. ;)

Vaida has a certain ability that makes her gay.

She doesn't take melee damage too often. :tom:
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Mar 10 2007, 05:50 AM
Light Yagami
Mar 10 2007, 12:40 AM
Leo Aldwulf
Mar 10 2007, 04:38 AM
Vaida's bases should compensate for her coming so late. I think Farina should be in there for draining your funds.

Vaida's Spd is crap.

So is Wil's. ;)

Vaida has a certain ability that makes her gay.

She doesn't take melee damage too often. :tom:

Wil's Spd isn't crap.

Vaida at 20 has 17 Spd while Wil has 22 at 20
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Then you must have gotton screwed then because Vaida actually has high SPD growth.
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Wil's slow for a large portion of the game. His 20/20 SPD is okayish, but he's still pretty darn slow for his class. Bows don't have any special or super-duper-OHKO weapons, either.

Edit: OMFG get out of N00b Mode, people! Vaida's SPD is 18 in HM! .__.
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