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Abortion; renewed fervor for the debate forum ftw
Topic Started: Jun 12 2007, 02:27 PM (2,207 Views)
Phoenix Wright
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that moron that forgot this is s11

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makes sense, but almost completely irrelevant

But it's also completely true in light of considering humans nothing more than beasts...which is the implication that I'm getting from your insistence on the human species being animals.

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which in fact happens to be our weakness

How? The ability to reason, for instance, that having kids is not a good idea when your finances can't handle the strain is a boon, not a weakness. The ability to sympathize and empathize with others also makes us aware to the consequences of any action...and thus allows reason to kick in and tell us not to make the same choice.

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i think so to.. but it doesnt mean the problem shoold just b let run free.

What problem? Population is on the decline.

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are suggetsing there shoold be some sort of penalty to those that do happen to get pregnant?

If by "expect a penalty" you mean "expect people to take responsibility for the consequences of their actions," then yes. I am in favor of abortion, though, in cases like rape; I'm not expecting the victim to pay for the crime.

Oh, and Soja ftw:

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Only the most desirable areas are overpopulated.

There is an enormous amount of booniespace in the U.S., let alone Canada, Mexico and Europe.

qft

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the single best reason for anyone to ever have an abortion is because it would cost less to have an abortion then to raise the baby. Like I've said on a different board, I would much rather die before I was born then starve to death alongside my mother because she couldn't afford to feed me.

Or your mom could, y'know, send you to an adoption clinic. It's not gonna guarantee a good life, but it's the best situation in that scenario.
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Fraulein Holls
Sep 14 2008, 06:16 PM
Some Kind Of Monster - Metallica

>> Metallica wub all of a sudden

Say, I know a member currently going by Ron DeLite who also loves Metallica, you two should totally hook up.
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rofl Chris
 
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What problem? Population is on the decline.


because of other problems due to insensitivity and sensitivity alike.

all of the people that died will die and are dying of reaons that make no sense are an exmaple. what i mean is, people arent doing everything they can to stop these things because its always about money. examples: alcohol, durgs, cigarettes, AIDs, etc.
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Phoenix Wright
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that moron that forgot this is s11

But how does that affect abortion?
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I conquered the world with nothing but diarrhea and depression.

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Fraulein Holls
Sep 14 2008, 06:16 PM
Some Kind Of Monster - Metallica

>> Metallica wub all of a sudden

Say, I know a member currently going by Ron DeLite who also loves Metallica, you two should totally hook up.
God of Thunder - KISS

rofl Chris
 
Chris says:
you know what
Chris says:
someone
Chris says:
once said to be
Chris says:
me*
Chris says:
when someone did
Chris says:
d(-_-)b
Chris says:
wtf, how'd they invert the b?
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Or your mom could, y'know, send you to an adoption clinic. It's not gonna guarantee a good life, but it's the best situation in that scenario.

:hmm:

Good point.
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Simon the Suave
Jul 11 2007, 02:02 AM
But how does that affect abortion?

it doesn't it affects population

duh.
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Phoenix Wright
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that moron that forgot this is s11

And...? It decreases population and, thus, the need for abortion as a population growth deterrent.

...Are you for or against abortion, btw? I'm confusing myself here.
Wirt
 
I conquered the world with nothing but diarrhea and depression.

Previously: Ron DeLite, Simon
Reaver for the lulz
 
Fraulein Holls
Sep 14 2008, 06:16 PM
Some Kind Of Monster - Metallica

>> Metallica wub all of a sudden

Say, I know a member currently going by Ron DeLite who also loves Metallica, you two should totally hook up.
God of Thunder - KISS

rofl Chris
 
Chris says:
you know what
Chris says:
someone
Chris says:
once said to be
Chris says:
me*
Chris says:
when someone did
Chris says:
d(-_-)b
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wtf, how'd they invert the b?
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Simon the Suave
Jul 11 2007, 02:28 AM
And...? It decreases population and, thus, the need for abortion as a population growth deterrent.

...Are you for or against abortion, btw? I'm confusing myself here.

im for it. by getting an abortion u run the risk of never getting pregnant again and crap. they tell u the risks

so that in itself presents its own 'consequences'

most people are just jealous that others just got away with the responsiblity. that, or people think its bad to get abortions because it kills life or whatever. but then i wonder, do they consider masturbation a bad thign too? when people masturbate, sperm clearly isnt looking for an egg, so its even worse

there really is no difference between that and the first stages of pregnancy
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Just a sidenote: There are some people who believe that masturbation is needless genocide. At least during intercourse, there is a chance for creation.

It's a weird belief, but whatever. There are weird people out there.
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絶望した!!!

look...there are 3 types of people in this world

Dicks
Assholes
Pussys

Pussys get fucked by Dicks and Assholes just shit on everybody

have i made myself clear?
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K, let's try not to purposely derail the topic. It isn't chit chat. I'm happy to talk Team America any time (I have that speech memorized btw) but Abortion is kind of a serious issue and this entire topic was just slaughtered by Kombat. So, I'm going to request that his comments here not be taken into extreme consideration and we continue with the debate, hm?
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絶望した!!!

but without a little bit of humor...the topic seems to get too serious. then people get...angry...then flamming starts. just trying to avoid that senerio
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Jul 11 2007, 04:38 AM
look...there are 3 types of people in this world

Dicks
Assholes
Pussys

Pussys get fucked by Dicks and Assholes just shit on everybody

have i made myself clear?

but some can argue life is sink or swim

its just human instinct to swim, even if it means drowning someone else

my step-dad did that when he was honduras
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Swimming is so not a human instinct. It has to be taught. It is instinct to struggle, but that is hardly swimming and hardly helpful.

I might also add that in reply to Kam, those people are errored in many ways. Theologically because cells aren't ethnic populations, scientifically because spermazoa are only half a human being.
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Jul 11 2007, 01:37 AM
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Jul 11 2007, 04:38 AM
look...there are 3 types of people in this world

Dicks
Assholes
Pussys

Pussys get fucked by Dicks and Assholes just shit on everybody

have i made myself clear?

but some can argue life is sink or swim

its just human instinct to swim, even if it means drowning someone else

my step-dad did that when he was honduras

Your stepdad let somebody drown in Honduras? :thizz:
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Swimming is so not a human instinct. It has to be taught. It is instinct to struggle, but that is hardly swimming and hardly helpful.


wow

so not what i meant

whatever, i dont wanna explain something that is USUALLY self-explanatory

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Your stepdad let somebody drown in Honduras?


well kinda

he was drowing, and someone tried to save him, but the other person started to drown too(im guessing it was river with currents or something) and so my step-dad dragged the other guy down to save himself
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