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Brawl Tier List
Topic Started: Apr 20 2008, 10:11 AM (5,541 Views)
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Poooooor Sonic. ;_;

IMO, Ike should sit atop Mid tier. He's just so painfully obvious. All of his moves, including his tilts, are really slow. His only quick move is Quickdraw, which would be good if it didn't have so much ending lag. (If even has the lag if the opponent roll/dodges! :[) His short hop is pretty good, but again, his aerials are also slow as hell.

EDIT: Could you also explain to me why Sonic's bottom tier? I'm curious, is all.
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There is a light that never goes out...

To my knowledge, Sonic's biggest problem is his inability to kill people.

And Ike's Jab combo isn't slow, and is one of the best jab combos in the game (if not the best). Bair is a quick move as well. Then Ike has a few moves with Guard Frames on them. So its not like he can't land hits.
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Alright, I know Sonic only has like two moves that can KO, but he's definitely not below Falcon or Ivysaur.

After seeing crazy Sonic players like Lucky and this mofo, I am pretty sure Sonic isn't bottom tier, he's got potential. Like you said in the past, it's hard to do.
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May 9 2008, 06:49 PM
Alright, I know Sonic only has like two moves that can KO, but he's definitely not below Falcon or Ivysaur.

After seeing crazy Sonic players like Lucky and this mofo, I am pretty sure Sonic isn't bottom tier, he's got potential. Like you said in the past, it's hard to do.

Sonic only wins off of bullshit random stuff people don't know how to handle yet.

Like...he has no priority at all. Just wait and hit him. His giant forward tilt loses to Jigglypuff's tiny forward tilt. Bowser can sit there and jab through Sonic's approaches. Sonic is abysmal.

Sonic's biggest problem is that he can't fight.
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I always thought his priority wasn't bad, because I noticed that whenever using b-forward or b-down, he would rip through Snake's missiles.

But Sonic unfortunately fails against many projectiles, namely Samus.
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...His largest move loses to Jigglypuff's tiny f-tilt. That sucks.
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BOOM! Headshot. :3

You suck. D:
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Sonic does suck. The only use for him is to hit someone once and then run away to go you're too slow.
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My personal tier list based on my tournament and personal experiences using the characters:

-God Tier-
MetaKnight
Snake

-Top Tier-
Dedede
Marth
Toon Link
Game and Watch
Falco
Diddy Kong
Pit

-High Tier-
Ice Climbers
Squirtle
Fox
Wolf
ROB
Jigglypuff
Zelda
Sheik
Lucas
Pikachu
Kirby
Zero Suit Samus
Charizard

-Mid Tier-
Wario
Donkey Kong
Luigi
Ike
Bowser
Olimar
Mario
Samus
Ness

-Low Tier-
Link
Yoshi
Peach
Lucario
Captain Falcon
Ivysaur

-Bottom Tier-
Sonic
Ganondorf

Ike is total trash. He loses to more characters than he beats.

-MetaKnight wrecks him, no explanation needed.
-Snake wrecks him, see above.
-Dedede chaingrabs him to death and gimps him easily.
-Marth outspeeds him massively and gimps him.
-Toon Link camps him to death.
-Game and Watch pressures him to death with his insane offense.
-Falco chaingrabs him to almost 50 and laser camps him.
-Diddy Kong does the same crap as Game and Watch except kills at lower percents but has bananas to kill Ike's forward b.
-Pit camps him to death and gimps him.
-Ice Climbers 0 to death him without much trouble.
-Squirtle is the same as Game and Watch on Ike.
-Fox camps him and does dumb stuff to him.
-Wolf camps him and has lol moves.
-ROB has a one frame down smash, laser, and other dumb crap that owns Ike.
-Jigglypuff gets him off the stage at any percent and he dies, and she rests him out of half of his moves if they miss or get shielded.
-Zelda owns everything he does with her f-smash and her Din's Fire is gay to work around.
-Sheik is still Sheik and has needles and Ike is a heavy character, so oh well for him.
-Lucas punishes Ike with insane smash attacks and can camp PK Fire him on him all day.
-Zero Suit Samus is like Sheik but with a gigantic grab and a stunning projectile, so it's probably even worse.
-Charizard has fire and can punish Ike with 51 damage Rock Smash and gimp him with huge, homosexual aerials.
-Wario can super armour through Ike's moves and punish almost everything he does with d-air out of shield, and he jumps out and gimps him reliably.
-Donkey Kong is a huge ape that can use his giant moves to kill Ike when he's off the stage easily, and Ike can get punished with giant claps that kill him instantly at like 50%.
-Luigi can camp his fireball on Ike and reliably punish him with his stupid up b, LOL!

That covers the characters I think are better than Ike.

-Bowser does the same stuff as Donkey Kong but to a lesser degree, but then he also stops Ike's approaches with Fire.
-Mario fireball camps, combos, and gimps, which he can use his gay cape and fludd thing for.
-Link kills Ike's approaches with three projectiles and actually BEATS Ike with several huge moves.
-Captain Falcon gimps Ike consistently and can actually do some semi-combos on him, and Ike has lots of trouble working around his crazy dash speed.

Olimar, Samus, Ness, Yoshi, Peach, Lucario, Ivysaur, Sonic, and Ganondorf are unfortunate enough to suck enough to either lose to Ike or go even with him. The only reason Ike isn't low tier is that he loses his matches 60/40 at worst, so it's not like he's mega-raped.

Ike is still an overrated piece of trash. Azen did well with him in ONE tournament right when the game came out, and that guy in NY called Kirk was all right with him. Now Ike loses and Azen just uses other characters and Kirk does whatver he wants because Western NY is trash at Smash.
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Yoshi is still better than Ike. Egg camping. Spot dodge back air to combo. If Counter spammer, spam eggs. Still easy as hell to gimp, especially since Yoshi is a heavyweight. Only move Ike has in general is jab, and back air. Hell, Yoshi's side B stops Ike general spam moves.
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May 11 2008, 07:33 AM
Yoshi is still better than Ike. Egg camping. Spot dodge back air to combo. If Counter spammer, spam eggs. Still easy as hell to gimp, especially since Yoshi is a heavyweight. Only move Ike has in general is jab, and back air. Hell, Yoshi's side B stops Ike general spam moves.

Yoshi sucks too much. Eggs are tons easier to work around than the other forms of projectile camping. Yoshi has lag in a lot of his moves. Ike outranged him in combat. Ike doesn't care about the super armour on his second jump. Yoshi also isn't that good at gimping Ike.
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Play Yoshi sometime.
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The only thing Yoshi is good for is Mario Kart 64.
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You're a maggot.
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Sometimes I wonder if he arranges the list just to make us angry, then he secretly laughs at us from behind closed doors as we desperatly try to disagree.
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