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Brawl Tier List
Topic Started: Apr 20 2008, 10:11 AM (5,549 Views)
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There is a light that never goes out...

Snake God Tier? I know the character is good, but God Tier? I would think someone like DeDeDe and Toon Link would be ahead of him.

I'm also surprised to see G&W where he is. Other than that, I can't say much, because I have no idea how good or bad he is.
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Apr 20 2008, 10:56 PM
Snake God Tier? I know the character is good, but God Tier? I would think someone like DeDeDe and Toon Link would be ahead of him.

I'm also surprised to see G&W where he is. Other than that, I can't say much, because I have no idea how good or bad he is.

Ever seen Snake fly around the screen? The only time when you can really punish snake is after his neutral foiward and down aerials. Though. I jump out of shield down air for lulz, and because usually run into the last kick which has the most knockback.
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Apr 20 2008, 08:57 PM
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Apr 20 2008, 08:18 PM
I really think Olimar should move up because his aerials are great, he can rack up lots of damage with his side-b and because his recovery is awesome if he has enough Pikmin. The fact that he's dependent on them is a big downside, but they're not that hard to keep alive, and anyone who knows how to use him won't have any problems by plucking them from the ground at the right moments.

It's also equally easy to just camp him and get his Pikmin to die. A character that has a large chance of dying when they're off the stage can't be that good. Falco and Fox were gimpable as hell in Melee, but they still had two recovery options to Olimar's one that is countered by merely edgehogging him.

Good point. His flaws justify him being only Mid-Tier.
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Apr 20 2008, 09:50 PM
Running grab is faster and has more length than jab and f tilt. Jab is longer than backair? No egg spamming? Egg roll stops jab but lags too much do do anything? Eh.

Egg spamming is countered by powershielding and then forward B.

Yoshi's grab shouldn't beat Ganondorf's f-tilt, and Ganondorf can just jump and f-air Yoshi if he goes for his grab anyways.

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Snake God Tier? I know the character is good, but God Tier? I would think someone like DeDeDe and Toon Link would be ahead of him.

I'm also surprised to see G&W where he is. Other than that, I can't say much, because I have no idea how good or bad he is.


His u-tilt can beat Marth's perfectly spaced tipper f-air. Need more explanation? He's extremely heavy, nearly impossible to gimp, an excellent camper, all of his moves have KO power and most of them have RIDICULOUS KO power, and they're fast. His f-tilt has the same KO power as most smashes and it comes out way faster and is huge. Wtf @ that.

G&W has the best offense in the game.
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Apr 20 2008, 10:59 PM
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Apr 20 2008, 09:50 PM
Running grab is faster and has more length than jab and f tilt. Jab is longer than backair? No egg spamming? Egg roll stops jab but lags too much do do anything? Eh.

Egg spamming is countered by powershielding and then forward B.

Yoshi's grab shouldn't beat Ganondorf's f-tilt, and Ganondorf can just jump and f-air Yoshi if he goes for his grab anyways.

If Yoshi sees jump while running, upsmash. It's still faster than most moves, especially ganons slower foward air.
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Apr 20 2008, 10:02 PM
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Apr 20 2008, 10:59 PM
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Apr 20 2008, 09:50 PM
Running grab is faster and has more length than jab and f tilt. Jab is longer than backair? No egg spamming? Egg roll stops jab but lags too much do do anything? Eh.

Egg spamming is countered by powershielding and then forward B.

Yoshi's grab shouldn't beat Ganondorf's f-tilt, and Ganondorf can just jump and f-air Yoshi if he goes for his grab anyways.

If Yoshi sees jump while running, upsmash. It's still faster than most moves, especially ganons slower foward air.

Not if Ganondorf is smart and jumps BACK. :)

Then he can land and punish with forward B.

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Ganondorf for top tier.
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Sidestep dodge then rape.

what the fuck
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Apr 20 2008, 10:06 PM
Sidestep dodge then rape.

what the fuck

Yoshi wouldn't be able to sidestep the foward B if he did his laggy as dash grab or if Ganondorf short hopped, landed, and predicted the sidestep. ;)

Want to do this match in a money match someday?
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cool story bro


This leads me to question how much I really want to play Ganon. :(

For the record, I don't care about becoming super-pro like you do, so losing tournaments isn't that big of a deal. Losing consistently in the first round however, is something I wouldn't particularly enjoy.
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Apr 20 2008, 10:09 PM
This leads me to question how much I really want to play Ganon. :(

For the record, I don't care about becoming super-pro like you do, so losing tournaments isn't that big of a deal. Losing consistently in the first round however, is something I wouldn't particularly enjoy.

You might get not-last with Ganondorf, but he's awful trash and you'll never be able to win money.
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There is a light that never goes out...

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His u-tilt can beat Marth's perfectly spaced tipper f-air. Need more explanation? He's extremely heavy, nearly impossible to gimp, an excellent camper, all of his moves have KO power and most of them have RIDICULOUS KO power, and they're fast. His f-tilt has the same KO power as most smashes and it comes out way faster and is huge. Wtf @ that.

Wait, his up-tilt can do that? lol I really need to get more play experience with this guy, I had no idea his up-tilt was that good.
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cool story bro


Inui
Apr 20 2008, 11:12 PM
Phil
Apr 20 2008, 10:09 PM
This leads me to question how much I really want to play Ganon. :(

For the record, I don't care about becoming super-pro like you do, so losing tournaments isn't that big of a deal. Losing consistently in the first round however, is something I wouldn't particularly enjoy.

You might get not-last with Ganondorf, but he's awful trash and you'll never be able to win money.

Winning money has never been a goal of mine when I'm playing this game. Regardless, I don't want to get wrecked at every tourney I go to, which, admittedly, won't be a whole lot.
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Lucas is good. Just use him so you can't get last like scrubs.
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Yeah dude it shouldn't be impossible, the one I went to as Zelda I won 4 times before getting my second loss, granted it was rather huge and even by then I was probably not much farther than barely top half.

Not that it matters, Nebraska lacks big names like those more crowded areas. And yeah Lucas is good, he was my first match up and I only barely won after winning, getting trounced, then winning again.
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(Kaethode)Ike should stay in high tier because many of the players that can beat him are in the same tier. Other than that, Ike is high tier because he has really big knockback, and has the range to hit. It often depends on if you turtle or go on the offensive.


But Ike has very awful recovery, if he gets knocked too far out of the ring, he is gone.

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(Inui)Peach is awful. Her KO power and damage output dropped dramatically, and her recovery is actually abysmal now that her second jump does nothing and her up B has massive lag upon landing with it. She has range issues. Just...she's terrible.


Her slaps are okay and she can counter, unlike most characters that cannot, so that's a plus on her part.

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(Inui)Marth's recovery is amazing. I have no idea what you're talking about. His up B got larger, faster, and stronger. The tether characters and characters like Ganondorf have shitty recoveries, not Marth.


Not if he gets knocked too far from the ring as he will not be able to make it to the ledge.

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(PyroIce)I really think Olimar should move up because his aerials are great, he can rack up lots of damage with his side-b and because his recovery is awesome if he has enough Pikmin. The fact that he's dependent on them is a big downside, but they're not that hard to keep alive, and anyone who knows how to use him won't have any problems by plucking them from the ground at the right moments.


Only except that he would have to whistle to keep his Pikmen in check as they tend to lose sychrenising with him alot.

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(Inui)G&W has the best offense in the game.


Not to mention that he does have a move that can instantly KO an opponent if the counter of the Hammer hit is 9.
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