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| Inui | Jun 30 2008, 09:49 PM Post #46 |
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Power of Flower
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Practicing without the scope in situations where the scope is better has no purpose. Nothing you can say will change that. |
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| Linoud | Jun 30 2008, 09:59 PM Post #47 |
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Knight of Seven
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Arguing with you, has no purpose. Nothing you can say will change that. Soja, he's a lost cause. Just give up already. |
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| Reaver | Jun 30 2008, 10:18 PM Post #48 |
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Yeah it does, did you just ignore everything Soja has said? If you can use the no-scope just as easily as you can use the scope you can not only kill foes quicker but you can also use the scope more effectively when you do end up pulling it out. Plus in Halo 3 the scope goes down when you're shot; being a good marksman in the clutch is much better than being a good marksman without any pressure. |
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| Inui | Jun 30 2008, 10:20 PM Post #49 |
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Yes, be good without the scope in those situations. |
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| cool story bro | Jun 30 2008, 10:21 PM Post #50 |
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QFT Inui, stop being arrogant about a game that you don't play competitively. |
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| Slit | Jun 30 2008, 10:30 PM Post #51 |
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What Inui SERIOUSLY fails to grasp is that human beings approach perfection in a competitive game, they never reach it. You are not always in a scope at the right time, or out of scope at the right time, and in those situations, it is actually better to kill them in the wrong zoom than to have to change zooms and get killed during these needless frames. To do this, it requires practice of doing the "wrong" move. A boxer has to practice taking punches even if he never plans to get successfully punched so that when he slips up, he doesn't auto-lose. |
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| sephiroth667 | Jul 1 2008, 12:18 AM Post #52 |
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Nostalgia
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But all you guys are only half right Sometimes you need to kill without the scope. Sometimes you need to kill with it. That is because you are approached by two different situations, one where the enemy is close, and one where he is farther. In Brawl, however, if you need to grab, fucking grab. There is no substitute for grabbing. If someone gets close to DDD and he puts up his shield, then they attack into it, the best choice there is to fuckin grab so he can CG all day. There is almost no circumstance when not grabbing when you can grab is a good option. Like i said earlier, eliminating grabbing from your playstyle in Brawl is like saying you don't melee in Halo, or don't use Nades. Practicing with and without scope gives you a skill. Practicing without grabbing however, cuts the idea out of your mind when you need to thus having the opposite effect of a skill. |
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| Inui | Jul 1 2008, 12:27 AM Post #53 |
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Power of Flower
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Grabbing in Brawl gives you little reward with most of the cast. I just do something else if I can. I only grab since it works out of shield and isn't blockable. |
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| sephiroth667 | Jul 1 2008, 12:49 AM Post #54 |
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Nostalgia
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Thus why I said you should when you should, i.e. if your opponent attacks into your shield |
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| Admin | Jul 1 2008, 02:12 AM Post #55 |
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There is a light that never goes out...
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In FPS, you have different skills you need to develop. Being able to no-scope as a sniper is one of them. Forcing yourself to only no-scope improves your no-scoping ability. Thus, in a competitive game, when you need to no-scope, you can do it easily. If you don't practice no-scoping, you won't improve at it. Why can't you understand that, Luke? The equivalent of this to something in Melee would be just sitting down one day, and practicing tech. Like wavedashing, L-Canceling, and stuff like that. Just due to the nature of how Smash is different from FPS, its obviously not nearly as important to practice like that in Smash, but you get the idea, hopefully. |
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| sephiroth667 | Jul 1 2008, 02:39 AM Post #56 |
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Practicing not doing something =/= practicing doing something Seriously the bottom line is that you NEED to grab sometimes. Unless you spam grab or something this will not help you, in any way. No-scoping is not doing something, but IS a skill because without it you're helpless in an instance you would need it. Not grabbing is not doing something, but is NOT a skill because you're left helpless in an instance you WOULD need it. There is a HUGE difference. |
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| Admin | Jul 1 2008, 09:39 PM Post #57 |
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There is a light that never goes out...
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What does that have to do with what I posted? Practicing no-scoping IS doing something. And then Practicing tech IS doing something. If you are practicing no scoping, you are practicing shooting without a scope. how is that NOT something? |
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| Pyro Ice | Jul 1 2008, 10:28 PM Post #58 |
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Check The Blueprint...
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Playing with friends is supposed to be fun anyways. *shrugs* While tournament players choose to take Brawl extremely seriously, most people still consider it a video game. I say that if you and your friends have fun without grabbing, there's nothing wrong with doing it since you seem to be a casual player like most of us. Never grabbing won't work against someone at Lucas' level, but don't get discouraged. According to Lucas, American players >>>>>>>>> European players, so by his logic you can play without grabs if you want and still be considered fairly good.
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| Admin | Jul 1 2008, 11:16 PM Post #59 |
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There is a light that never goes out...
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I bet professional Football and Baseball Players would agree that their sports are games as well. Just because you take a game seriously to win, doesn't mean you don't think of it as a game. |
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| Alpha Werewolf | Jul 1 2008, 11:39 PM Post #60 |
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...Gee, do you guys make a debate out of everything? I mean, you've already answered the original question. |
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