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Marvel vs Capcom 2
Topic Started: Jul 12 2009, 03:32 AM (491 Views)
sephiroth667
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Jul 25 2009, 12:59 AM
Punishment Divine
Jul 15 2009, 11:23 PM
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Jul 15 2009, 09:52 PM
They would have to rebalance the fuck out of this game to make it decent.
I have no idea what you're talking about. MvC2 is among the most balanced of fighting games. EVERYONE can fuck EVERYONE up. Shit, JWong went over to Europe that one time and took their best player out with one of the better characters in the game and 2 characters which absolutely SUCKED, one of which was SERVEBOT. Almost everyone has an infinite and even if they don't, they have some sort of synergy with the rest of the cast.

This game is fun, but the fact that I'm not good at it means that I'll get it to play with friends but probably only go in player matches. I'd probably get raped in Ranked Matches because I'm far too lazy/addicted to Smash and BlazBlue to learn this complicated as shxt game.
Everyone being broken (which isn't true, unless you are Sentinel, Magneto, or Cable or something) doesn't make the game balanced. That in fact makes the game bad. The two brokens doesn't make a balanced. Tons of characters are broken as hell in Mortal Kombat (I'm talking the old ones, IDK about the new ones), and those are imbalanced pieces of garbage-games.
You have no idea what constitutes balanced, do you?

I guess you're going to tell me Melee is balanced next...

BTW I have seen teams composed of Iron Man, Doom, and one of the top tiers rape. Ice Man, Mega Man, and others are also really good. Low tiers are the only ones who are really unusable
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Is balance in a fighting game possible? The company seems to ruin it some way or another.
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Punishment Divine
Jul 26 2009, 07:56 PM
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Jul 25 2009, 12:59 AM
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Jul 15 2009, 09:52 PM
They would have to rebalance the fuck out of this game to make it decent.
I have no idea what you're talking about. MvC2 is among the most balanced of fighting games. EVERYONE can fuck EVERYONE up. Shit, JWong went over to Europe that one time and took their best player out with one of the better characters in the game and 2 characters which absolutely SUCKED, one of which was SERVEBOT. Almost everyone has an infinite and even if they don't, they have some sort of synergy with the rest of the cast.

This game is fun, but the fact that I'm not good at it means that I'll get it to play with friends but probably only go in player matches. I'd probably get raped in Ranked Matches because I'm far too lazy/addicted to Smash and BlazBlue to learn this complicated as shxt game.
Everyone being broken (which isn't true, unless you are Sentinel, Magneto, or Cable or something) doesn't make the game balanced. That in fact makes the game bad. The two brokens doesn't make a balanced. Tons of characters are broken as hell in Mortal Kombat (I'm talking the old ones, IDK about the new ones), and those are imbalanced pieces of garbage-games.
You have no idea what constitutes balanced, do you?

I guess you're going to tell me Melee is balanced next...

BTW I have seen teams composed of Iron Man, Doom, and one of the top tiers rape. Ice Man, Mega Man, and others are also really good. Low tiers are the only ones who are really unusable
Melee is balanced enough to be playable. MvC2 is an unplayable, imbalanced piece of garbage.

I mean, if you want to get into a pissing contest about "who knows what balance is or not", we can. There is a reason why MvC2 isn't respected like Street Fighter, or KoF, or something like that.
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What are you talking about? MvC2 is actually one of the most respected fighting games because it takes a lot of skill to play. If you don't know how to play, yeah you'll get raped by the God Tiers. I've seen plenty of MSS/MSC teams get raped by teams with characters like Wolverine, Ice Man etc. on them. Don't believe me, proof is in the pudding. Melee is no longer at Evo or any large MLG events. MvC2 is still widely played on a national level, with tournies ran by professional organizations.

To someone who has no idea how to game works then I guess it looks unbalanced but it's a lot more balanced than a game like SFIV or even Third Strike.

And yea, balance in a fighting game is always skewed. How good a game is competitively is just how skewed it is. Something like Guilty Gear or BlazBlue is a lot more balanced than some trash game like MK v DC or SFIV
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Jul 25 2009, 02:53 AM
is SC4 balanced cus I swear to god a person who's hella good with Yoshimitsu can beat anyone who is a master with the other chracters. o__o

but yeah, I would think Spidy would be a bit higher no? Just going off of what I read in an old as issue of gameinformer, or whatever, and they say spidy is one of the best characters in the game
roflmao that character isn't even good

super ultra ROFLMAO at trusting a game magazine about what's good in a fighting game
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<Sentenal> feez
<Sentenal> feezzzzzzz
<Feez> yooy0
<Sentenal> if someone told you
<Sentenal> "marvel vs capcom 2 is more balanced that SFIV or even Third Strike"
<Sentenal> what would you say?
<Feez> i would barf and then ban them
<Sentenal> apparently punishment_divine thinks the game is very balanced
* Feez barfs
<Sentenal> more balanced than those two
<Feez> not that sf4 or 3s are terribly balanced games because they're not
<Feez> but mvc2....barf
<Sentenal> so am i correct in saying that mvc2 is an imbalanced piece of garbage?
<Feez> ya


edit: Oh yeah, I decided I wanted to make a snide remark, so I'm sorry in advance:
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What are you talking about? MvC2 is actually one of the most respected fighting games because it takes a lot of skill to play. If you don't know how to play, yeah you'll get raped by the God Tiers. I've seen plenty of MSS/MSC teams get raped by teams with characters like Wolverine, Ice Man etc. on them. Don't believe me, proof is in the pudding. Melee is no longer at Evo or any large MLG events. MvC2 is still widely played on a national level, with tournies ran by professional organizations.

Yes, I'm sure it takes a ton of skill to pick a god tier, and then start infinite comboing people.
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SFIV is unbalanced as shit

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<Sentenal> feez
<Sentenal> feezzzzzzz
<Feez> yooy0
<Sentenal> if someone told you
<Sentenal> "marvel vs capcom 2 is more balanced that SFIV or even Third Strike"
<Sentenal> what would you say?
<Feez> i would barf and then ban them
<Sentenal> apparently punishment_divine thinks the game is very balanced
* Feez barfs
<Sentenal> more balanced than those two
<Feez> not that sf4 or 3s are terribly balanced games because they're not
<Feez> but mvc2....barf
<Sentenal> so am i correct in saying that mvc2 is an imbalanced piece of garbage?
<Feez> ya


edit: Oh yeah, I decided I wanted to make a snide remark, so I'm sorry in advance:
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What are you talking about? MvC2 is actually one of the most respected fighting games because it takes a lot of skill to play. If you don't know how to play, yeah you'll get raped by the God Tiers. I've seen plenty of MSS/MSC teams get raped by teams with characters like Wolverine, Ice Man etc. on them. Don't believe me, proof is in the pudding. Melee is no longer at Evo or any large MLG events. MvC2 is still widely played on a national level, with tournies ran by professional organizations.

Yes, I'm sure it takes a ton of skill to pick a god tier, and then start infinite comboing people.
And I guess feez is the fin all to what's balanced?

Also, yes it does take skill to infinite people in that game. It also takes skill to avoid those infinites. There are less infinites than you probably think btw.
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I don't want to have to do this again, but please word opinions against gaming publications and the advice they have to offer in a less abrasive manner which doesn't insult the intelligence of our members. :NomNomNom:
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<Sentenal> feez
<Sentenal> feezzzzzzz
<Feez> yooy0
<Sentenal> if someone told you
<Sentenal> "marvel vs capcom 2 is more balanced that SFIV or even Third Strike"
<Sentenal> what would you say?
<Feez> i would barf and then ban them
<Sentenal> apparently punishment_divine thinks the game is very balanced
* Feez barfs
<Sentenal> more balanced than those two
<Feez> not that sf4 or 3s are terribly balanced games because they're not
<Feez> but mvc2....barf
<Sentenal> so am i correct in saying that mvc2 is an imbalanced piece of garbage?
<Feez> ya


edit: Oh yeah, I decided I wanted to make a snide remark, so I'm sorry in advance:
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What are you talking about? MvC2 is actually one of the most respected fighting games because it takes a lot of skill to play. If you don't know how to play, yeah you'll get raped by the God Tiers. I've seen plenty of MSS/MSC teams get raped by teams with characters like Wolverine, Ice Man etc. on them. Don't believe me, proof is in the pudding. Melee is no longer at Evo or any large MLG events. MvC2 is still widely played on a national level, with tournies ran by professional organizations.

Yes, I'm sure it takes a ton of skill to pick a god tier, and then start infinite comboing people.
And I guess feez is the fin all to what's balanced?

Also, yes it does take skill to infinite people in that game. It also takes skill to avoid those infinites. There are less infinites than you probably think btw.
Well, seeing as how Feez is versed in many many fighting games, as in, he plays LOTS of 2D Fighters, and he plays them well, I'd say he would be more of an authority on what games are balanced than either you or me.
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Jul 27 2009, 12:38 AM
SFIV is unbalanced as shit

zangrief is living proof of this
Zangief isn't even the best character in the game, so wtf are you talking about?
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SFIV is unbalanced as shit

zangrief is living proof of this
Zangief isn't even the best character in the game, so wtf are you talking about?
Did I say he's the best character...?
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I'm just considering this game cause I hear it has Morrigan from Darkstalkers is in it. :3
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The game by itself is chill and pretty much a necessity to every home gamer's collection. The debate here is whether or not it's "tourney w0rthy" because of balance issues.
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Not only do I play a lot of fighters in genral, including Guilty Gear and BlazBlue on a competitive level, I play a number of 3D fighters and talk to people who play these games at the highest skill level. To them, a game like Smash is a joke. MvC2 is respected as a game which takes a LOT of skill. Just because what you see as "cheap" is a viable strategy to them doesn't mean the game is unbalanced
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