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Churches Attacked in Malaysia
Topic Started: Jan 11 2010, 04:29 AM (350 Views)
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KUALA LUMPUR, Malaysia — Three Christian churches were attacked with firebombs Friday as tensions rose in a dispute over whether Christians could use the word “Allah” in this largely Muslim nation.

Later in the day, small crowds rallied outside two major mosques in the capital, in a growing protest over a court ruling that overturned a government ban on the use of “Allah” by Roman Catholics as a translation for God.

“Allah is only for us,” said Faedzah Fuad, 28, who participated in the rally. “The Christians can use any word, we don’t care, but please don’t use the word Allah.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/09/world/asia/09malaysia.html?ref=asia


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There have been more attacks on churches in Malaysia, in a growing dispute over the use of the word Allah by non-Muslims.

The police say petrol bombs were thrown at a church and a convent school in the northern state of Perak, and at a church on the island of Sarawak.

Another church in the south of the country was daubed with black paint.

The attacks come days after four churches near the capital, Kuala Lumpur, were hit by petrol bombs.

The petrol bomb thrown at a guard house of a Catholic convent school in the town of Taiping, about 300km (185 miles) from Kuala Lumpur, did not explode.

Several broken bottles and paint thinners were found at the church next to the convent and one of the country's oldest Anglican churches, All Saints, also in Taiping, Reuters news agency reported.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/8450713.stm


So, some Muslims are blowing up churches, because apparently some brilliant Christians in the area decided to translate "God" as "Allah".
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Ok, I find Religion stupid as it is. But translating God to Allah is beyond fucking retarded.
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People need to calm the fuck down.
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Jan 11 2010, 08:40 AM
Ok, I find Religion stupid as it is. But translating God to Allah is beyond fucking retarded.
protip: Judaism, Christianity, and Islam are all rooted in the Old Testament, therefore the God they refer to—Yahweh, Jehovah, Allah—is the same God. Allah is merely another name for the Lord.

It's not "beyond fucking retarded." Responding to it with violence is.
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It's dumb because we all know some Muslims need any excuse to kill the white infidels of the west. Being right in the debate means little if you're blown up.

Remember the whole cartoon incident?

These people don't know how to chill the fuck down.
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Ok, I find Religion stupid as it is. But translating God to Allah is beyond fucking retarded.
protip: Judaism, Christianity, and Islam are all rooted in the Old Testament, therefore the God they refer to—Yahweh, Jehovah, Allah—is the same God. Allah is merely another name for the Lord.

It's not "beyond fucking retarded." Responding to it with violence is.
I know that I did take theology back in school but the point being is that they decided to take Allah's name and just apply it to the bible they should have known how touchy Muslims are when it comes to religion. It's obvious that there was going to be consequences and anything that happens they deserve. I'm not condoning the violence that the Muslims committed as that isn't right either, it's just stupid to be so inept in today's political climate.
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I dunno. You see all the irreverent shit and blasphemy spoken about Christianity and Catholics in general these days. Yet I'm not out there setting fire to synagogues because they believe that my Lord was just a crazy carpenter guy who got too in over his head with the Roman magistrate.

So no. Allah is simply a name in another language, the way that Yahweh and Jehovah from the previous are. There is no need whatsoever to resort to violence over a semantic, and it isn't excusable any way you slice it.
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I never claimed that it was excusable I merely claimed that it was foreseeable and that knowing that we should take more care around subjects like that. Sure it's not fair but that's just how it works.
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If you wish to live, you don't do that in those countries because their religion is SUPER SERIOUS BIZNIZZ. And violent.

Sure, you're justified if you do it, but... it's not really worth it imo.
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If you wish to live, you don't do that in those countries because their religion is SUPER SERIOUS BIZNIZZ. And violent.

Sure, you're justified if you do it, but... it's not really worth it imo.
That's pretty much what I was trying to say. :'(
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I dunno. You see all the irreverent shit and blasphemy spoken about Christianity and Catholics in general these days. Yet I'm not out there setting fire to synagogues because they believe that my Lord was just a crazy carpenter guy who got too in over his head with the Roman magistrate.

So no. Allah is simply a name in another language, the way that Yahweh and Jehovah from the previous are. There is no need whatsoever to resort to violence over a semantic, and it isn't excusable any way you slice it.
Cheer up, at least Christianity still beats Buddhism!
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I dunno. You see all the irreverent shit and blasphemy spoken about Christianity and Catholics in general these days. Yet I'm not out there setting fire to synagogues because they believe that my Lord was just a crazy carpenter guy who got too in over his head with the Roman magistrate.

So no. Allah is simply a name in another language, the way that Yahweh and Jehovah from the previous are. There is no need whatsoever to resort to violence over a semantic, and it isn't excusable any way you slice it.
Cheer up, at least Christianity still beats Buddhism!
which sect, mahayana or theravada?

also, Kalam, I blame the aggressors more. See, their legal right to use the name to refer to its bearer (anyhow) was upheld by the courts. What you seem to be suggesting is that if only the church had walked on eggshells knowing that Islam has a lunatic fringe willing to fly off the handle over semantics, this wouldn't have happened. Does that mean that everyone has to do what they like or else they get blown up?
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Does that mean that everyone has to do what they like or else they get blown up?


Yes. The lunatic fringe is very sensitive.

Like I said before, they kill people over cartoons. :psypoke:
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