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Health Care
Topic Started: Mar 21 2010, 11:03 PM (1,790 Views)
Kalamadorel
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What's wrong with the Canadian and European healthcare? I used it and it works fucking fine.
Edited by Kalamadorel, Mar 22 2010, 12:25 AM.
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Askio
Mar 22 2010, 12:23 AM
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Mar 22 2010, 12:21 AM
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Mar 22 2010, 12:18 AM
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Mar 22 2010, 12:15 AM
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Mar 22 2010, 12:12 AM
I agree with Askio. We need a system like Canada or Europe. At least that way wouldn't insurance companies need to compete with the government's plan? As a result driving down the prices of overly priced health insurance? Buisnesses spend buckets of money on health care a year. If they didn't have to shoulder that cost (at least less of it), then that money could be spent on making our products compeditive on the world market. At least that's how I see it.
Holy...fucking...shit... And I was under the impression that you were smart. Wow. We need to be like Canada and Europe? Holy fagballs. What the dick...

Sorry, man. Socialism ain't my thing. I didn't know you were THIS much of a liberal.
That wasn't exsaclty a reason why that doesn't work or a kind thing to say.
Me and Abomb both think you are a communist now, Blank.

I don't see how anyone here can actually believe that this shit will bring health care costs down. "Hey, we got a private health care system. Lets add several layers of government bureaucracy on top of it, and the hope stuff gets cheaper!!"
It'll bring how much the government has to pay for it down, therefore reducing overall health costs and lowering inflation. If we have a 2% tax increase for that, then so be it. People need to stop gripping about taxes, America has it pretty easy.
...Our system right now is a private system. You know that, right? And increased government bureaucracy is supposed to save the Government money? When has that EVER happened?
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Mar 22 2010, 12:21 AM
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Mar 22 2010, 12:12 AM
I agree with Askio. We need a system like Canada or Europe. At least that way wouldn't insurance companies need to compete with the government's plan? As a result driving down the prices of overly priced health insurance? Buisnesses spend buckets of money on health care a year. If they didn't have to shoulder that cost (at least less of it), then that money could be spent on making our products compeditive on the world market. At least that's how I see it.
Holy...fucking...shit... And I was under the impression that you were smart. Wow. We need to be like Canada and Europe? Holy fagballs. What the dick...

Sorry, man. Socialism ain't my thing. I didn't know you were THIS much of a liberal.
That wasn't exsaclty a reason why that doesn't work or a kind thing to say.
Me and Abomb both think you are a communist now, Blank.

I don't see how anyone here can actually believe that this shit will bring health care costs down. "Hey, we got a private health care system. Lets add several layers of government bureaucracy on top of it, and the hope stuff gets cheaper!!"
It's not like the Republicans have done a lot about it, not from what I can remember when they had power. Don't get me wrong, I don't care much for the Democrats right now either. Their rampant spending has me rather put out. The debt caused by bills passed has been staggering and the results are questionable at best. Would have we been better off without those spend stimulus plans? Maybe, but I have my doubts.

Both sides seem equally incompetent, but it's not like there is a golden third option out there.
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Inui
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This bill is going to increase spending like craaaaazy. November 2nd can't come too soon. Hopefully we survive for those elections.
Edited by Inui, Mar 22 2010, 01:38 AM.
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Mar 22 2010, 12:15 AM
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Mar 22 2010, 12:12 AM
I agree with Askio. We need a system like Canada or Europe. At least that way wouldn't insurance companies need to compete with the government's plan? As a result driving down the prices of overly priced health insurance? Buisnesses spend buckets of money on health care a year. If they didn't have to shoulder that cost (at least less of it), then that money could be spent on making our products compeditive on the world market. At least that's how I see it.
Holy...fucking...shit... And I was under the impression that you were smart. Wow. We need to be like Canada and Europe? Holy fagballs. What the dick...

Sorry, man. Socialism ain't my thing. I didn't know you were THIS much of a liberal.
That wasn't exsaclty a reason why that doesn't work or a kind thing to say.
Me and Abomb both think you are a communist now, Blank.

I don't see how anyone here can actually believe that this shit will bring health care costs down. "Hey, we got a private health care system. Lets add several layers of government bureaucracy on top of it, and the hope stuff gets cheaper!!"
It's not like the Republicans have done a lot about it, not from what I can remember when they had power. Don't get me wrong, I don't care much for the Democrats right now either. Their rampant spending has me rather put out. The debt caused by bills passed has been staggering and the results are questionable at best. Would have we been better off without those spend stimulus plans? Maybe, but I have my doubts.

Both sides seem equally incompetent, but it's not like there is a golden third option out there.
Republicans not doing anything with Healthcare when they had power relates to this... how?
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Crysta
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Policies individually will cost more.

Those who are in group policies, there would be no significant change in premiums.

32 million persons would fall into the nongroup market, but they would make up only 17 percent of workers covered by private insurance.

We still take $200 or something from each family to cover the uninsured, however, so to say it doesn't cost money is lolz. And this is definitely one of the bigger plans.

I'm not going get into whether or not another country's health care system is superior or inferior, or that someone is a communist or not.
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Mar 22 2010, 12:28 AM
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Mar 22 2010, 12:18 AM
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Mar 22 2010, 12:15 AM
Blank
Mar 22 2010, 12:12 AM
I agree with Askio. We need a system like Canada or Europe. At least that way wouldn't insurance companies need to compete with the government's plan? As a result driving down the prices of overly priced health insurance? Buisnesses spend buckets of money on health care a year. If they didn't have to shoulder that cost (at least less of it), then that money could be spent on making our products compeditive on the world market. At least that's how I see it.
Holy...fucking...shit... And I was under the impression that you were smart. Wow. We need to be like Canada and Europe? Holy fagballs. What the dick...

Sorry, man. Socialism ain't my thing. I didn't know you were THIS much of a liberal.
That wasn't exsaclty a reason why that doesn't work or a kind thing to say.
Me and Abomb both think you are a communist now, Blank.

I don't see how anyone here can actually believe that this shit will bring health care costs down. "Hey, we got a private health care system. Lets add several layers of government bureaucracy on top of it, and the hope stuff gets cheaper!!"
It's not like the Republicans have done a lot about it, not from what I can remember when they had power. Don't get me wrong, I don't care much for the Democrats right now either. Their rampant spending has me rather put out. The debt caused by bills passed has been staggering and the results are questionable at best. Would have we been better off without those spend stimulus plans? Maybe, but I have my doubts.

Both sides seem equally incompetent, but it's not like there is a golden third option out there.
Republicans not doing anything with Healthcare when they had power relates to this... how?
Couldn't they have implemented their own idea of how health care should have been handled? Anyways, it doesn't matter too much now.
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I think the Senate can stop this still...
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Mar 22 2010, 12:41 AM
I think the Senate can stop this still...
Was it the Senate the one that didn't approve the bill last time?
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Bullshit they work better than ours.

Canada's system makes it so it takes forever to get into a hosipital. America's system makes it so you can't get into the hospital at all.

Then again, my mom thinks I'm a noob with this stuff (she really said that), so dont' expect me to post here again. :Psyduck:
Edited by AdamNW, Mar 22 2010, 12:52 AM.
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Bullshit they work better than ours.

Canada's system makes it so it takes forever to get into a hosipital.

America's system makes it so you can't get into the hospital at all.

Better late than never, I always say.
I can't tell if you are trolling, or just mentally retarded.
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No, you always get in, no matter how much money you have. Recently one of my best friend's uncle got emergency surgery on his heart without insurance or money.

Blank, the bill is still going back to the Senate from what I know.
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Inui
Mar 22 2010, 12:54 AM
No, you always get in, no matter how much money you have.
Let me rephrase: Insurance covers you almost 100% of the time in Canada, it just takes forever to actually get into the Hospital (due to so many cases). American Health Care is so corrupt that getting coverage on damn near anything is pretty rare.

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Recently one of my best friend's uncle got emergency surgery on his heart without insurance or money.

lol@implying there was no cost for that surgery

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I can't tell if you are trolling, or just mentally retarded.

Funny, because I can't tell if you are trolling, or just a giant douchebag.
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Bullshit they work better than ours.

Canada's system makes it so it takes forever to get into a hosipital.

America's system makes it so you can't get into the hospital at all.

Better late than never, I always say.
I can't tell if you are trolling, or just mentally retarded.
You can always get into hospitals in the US... usually. If they have too many in the ER or whatever, they have to start direct ambulances to other hospitals and hopefully they have beds. I know at least some hospitals (like Providence) usually eat the cost of some million dollars of debt that people can’t pay in medical bills. Then again, they are a non-profit hospital but I suspect other hospitals do the same.

@Inui: ah I see.
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