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| Inui | Feb 11 2011, 09:34 PM Post #16 |
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Gliscor can typically survive physical ice moves by using protect and healing from his poison heal. I'd switch out on an ice type, anyways. I have Heatran to assrape those niggas and Doryuzu and Garchomp are going to outspeed them. Hail teams actually seem rare, and Salamence is poop. I don't see him used much because he likes dying in one hit too much. |
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| Linoud | Feb 11 2011, 09:39 PM Post #17 |
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Iunno, Im not an Pseudo user myself, but hell, doesnt make a difference if they're going to outspeed Weaville. Ice Shard is a priority move, it'll rape Garchomp no problem. Salamance is good. Intimidate is an underated ability. Cutting your opponents physical sweeper is handy. I should know. Fuck, my friend assraped my team since I mainly use Physical sweepers. Gyrados and Salamance. Dragon Dance = Rape. Of course, this was doubles. Of course, Im talking about only 4th Gen stuff here at the moment, but surely you enjoy your sand veil ability for your sandstorm team no? I personally think Umbreon is a better tank/troll than Gliscor. Just look at his bases. Still raped by Fighting too, but hell, mine survived a Dynamic Punch from a fully IV, natured and EV'd Adamant Machamp, it survived with half HP left. Given it has Moonlight, Protect, Toxic and Helping Hand, it lasted the next round easily enough due to it's partner. Edited by Linoud, Feb 11 2011, 09:41 PM.
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| Inui | Feb 11 2011, 09:46 PM Post #18 |
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Weavile is not going to one-shot Garchomp with that move, while Garchomp will massacre Weavile when it attacks. I didn't really say Salamance sucks, lol. I just barely see him when I'm playing. I'm pretty sure he's still in OU. Umbreon is incredibly annoying. Too bad Gliscor rapes it head to head. I once had to deal with an Umbreon that used curse five times, and my Gliscor still destroy it by using Knock Off to remove the Leftovers and then Toxic and Protect. Gliscor has two immunities and many resistances. Umbreon does not. Edited by Inui, Feb 11 2011, 09:47 PM.
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| Linoud | Feb 11 2011, 10:01 PM Post #19 |
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Really? You'd be surprised Inui. 120 base attack, not factoring in +10%, with 60 speed double super effective means it's dead. Im sorry, 60 x 4 = 240 + Priority. Factor in Weaviles own attack. It will most certainly die, theres no chance for it to hurt Weavile. Umbreon does not? Im sorry, I didnt realize that it being resistant fully to a very common offensive sp sweeper type, weak to an uncommon offensive type (bug) and having superior defensive stats as a whole to Gliscor was bad. Gliscor with Poison Heal in the next gen could rape a standard Umbreon, yes, but Umbreon is a better candidate completely for tanking and double battles still. He's by no means the best tank, but he certainly fills the role better. Umbreon has an excellent movepool for healing. For next gen, I'll wait till it comes out and I actually play through it and make up teams before I try discuss tactics seriously for it. I do know a few of the newtypes and some of the dream world abillities, but not all of them. |
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| Inui | Feb 11 2011, 10:05 PM Post #20 |
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I have yet to have my Garchomp die to that move in Pokemon Online. Gliscor is used a lot more than Umbreon. Doesn't mean he's better, but I see Gliscor a lot more and he's higher on the tier list, which is based on use. Being immune to both ground and electric is really h4x, especially the ground one. He has a ton of resistances and only two weaknesses. Bug moves are not as uncommon as you think. Scizor is in OU and Doryuzu likes to pack X-Scissor. Gliscor also shuts down Doryuzu, which is very important in the current metagame. Umbreon is raped badly by Doryuzu. Just play Pokemon Online, my mans. It's good shit. Edited by Inui, Feb 11 2011, 10:05 PM.
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| Linoud | Feb 11 2011, 10:12 PM Post #21 |
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Pokemon doesnt matter as much about tiers, it's highly strategic and everything has its counter. Gliscor IS a good pokemon, just I'm sure we'd have different setups for it. Yeah, Bug isnt as OU though as say Water, Fire, Ice, Fighting and Psychic, yknow? Hell, I'd be more surprised to see a Flying or a Grass move. I wouldnt leave Umbreon in on a Scizor, who's also one of my favorite pokemon though, just switch to my Arcanine. Yeah my team is generally Arcanine, Umbreon, Gallade and Electivire. For Doubles, 4 pokemon only, Item Clause, Species Clause, Sleep clause, etc all on. Just the usual tournaments around here have those rules, so I stick with those. Massive lack of Special attack in it though, hence why it was SEVERELY raped by Intimidate. I've got a good few other pokemon bred and trained, but it takes some time when your playing the actual game itself. Im positive it wont die to a non Ice type, but Weaville would definately do the job. I might check PO out sometime if Im free. It'd be nice to have tests before I go breeding pokemon etc. |
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| Inui | Feb 11 2011, 10:20 PM Post #22 |
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Real talk, fire is trash. The Pokemon, for the most part, are bad, and you rarely see fire moves in play. They are not needed when fighting and ground exist to beat steel already (steel being a highly dominant and popular type right now) and the prominence of water, ground, and rock is bad for them. Water is one of the best types. The others not so much. I don't see psychic types so much anymore since steel and dark are too common nowadays and hail teams are raped by the other two weather types. Fighting is aight since nuking dark, steel, and rock types is cool, but only that Roobushin or whatever it's called faggot is really used much. I've never even seen Arcanine once in Pokemon Online. Must be NU or some shit, rofl. Edited by Inui, Feb 11 2011, 10:34 PM.
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| Linoud | Feb 11 2011, 10:30 PM Post #23 |
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Iunno. Fire is definately useful. Hell, Ninetails having Drought in B/W makes an excellent setup for a sunny day team, Arcanine isnt too bad. And considering the best way to deal with Foretress/Scizor etc IS fire and they are OU, it has it's advantages. Arcanines pretty underestimated. Intimidate OR Flashfire, along with Flare Blitz, Extreme Speed, Close Combat etc. It can dish out damage nicely with a base of 110 in attack, iirc. Hell, Heatran's an amazing pokemon, I dont personally use one, but my friends do, and he's very effective. No idea where Arcanine places category-wise, because I dont actually care to check them, I go with Pokemon I like, because its not based on tiers. Before I used to even use IV/EV training I found Arcanine covered my old Scizor perfectly with Flash Fire. Simple switch in, powerup, fuck things up with Flare Blitz. But yeah, he's certainly not used that much. Im one of the few people I know who EV/IV trains that actually has one in their team usually. But hell, Im a doubles player so. Maybe thats why. Really? Wow. The metagame must suck if he's the only one really being used. Plenty of great new candidates in the new gen. That being said, I'll be entering the tournaments for B/W once it comes out. I do like their rulings, the official ones. Only Unova region pokemon sounds interesting. It'll force people to use new strategies for the first year of its release, tournament scene wise. That being said. Im training Axfucker up. |
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| Inui | Feb 11 2011, 10:37 PM Post #24 |
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Fire moves can be useful. Can be. The Pokemon themselves, besides Heatran (who is on my sandstorm team) and Drought!Ninetails, are almost never used. Steel, dark, ground, and water all seem very common right now when I play. |
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| Bossadai | Feb 12 2011, 05:17 AM Post #25 |
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AW: DoR, huh? I liked its characters much more than DS, and the music was excellent too. Of course, you cane expect a guy like to to appreciate this game for aesthetic value more than I would for its gameplay. :P What else...I played Path of Radience like a month ago; one of my friends here at USF had it, and I was kinda helping him out since he was a noob to the series. Problem is, he was playing on hard, so I was kinda reluctant on giving him advice...I always play on Easy. :D |
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| Inui | Feb 12 2011, 10:16 AM Post #26 |
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Why would anyone ever play a Fire Emblem game on anything but hard mode? I don't even find hard mode hard. I can't imagine how much of a joke other modes are. |
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| -HJ- | Feb 12 2011, 11:12 AM Post #27 |
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I've failed to come up with something witty, so I hope you will enjoy this filler text instead.
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Path of Radiance on Easy is just terrible. I mean, you get so much Exp several of my units were promoted by chapter 10. I'm still waiting for New Mystery to get localized so I can play it on Lunatic. Feels bad man. |
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| Inui | Feb 12 2011, 10:23 PM Post #28 |
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I only played hard mode, so Idk. I'm also waiting on the new FE. |
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| Bossadai | Feb 13 2011, 01:49 AM Post #29 |
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I KNOW. So awesome! :D |
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| Inui | Feb 13 2011, 11:15 PM Post #30 |
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Bryars is literally a scrub at everything except his political beliefs. |
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