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What CD's do you own?
Topic Started: Feb 4 2013, 10:15 AM (515 Views)
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Wahnsinn
Sep 15 2013, 04:23 AM
That's the reason why I don't buy CDs (lol not really)

Yeah, shelves for CDs can be pretty useful, but after a while you might feel like that it still takes up too much space.
Well it'll take me awhile to fill up those big shelves that accommodate a ton of CD's like this:

http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/87305207/
 
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I got a CD rack, it's handy as.
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I should get one, I'm only using the top shelf and the side rack on my desk.

My latest obsession to collect is 80's indie albums.
 
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Busted - Busted
The Simpsons - The Simpsons Sing The Blues
Deftones - Adrenaline
Green Day - 21st Century Breakdown (trash - I trusted them and bought it without listening and it had like half a good track out of 18)
Green Day - 1,039/Smoothed Out Slappy Hours
RAGE AGAINST THE MACHINE - Rage Against The Machine
RAGE AGAINST THE MACHINE - Evil Empire
RAGE AGAINST THE MACHINE - The Battle of Los Angeles (these 3 albums changed my life so I like to capitalise them out of respect)
Metallica - Death Magnetic

I think that's it. I also have some hip hop and metal mixtapes/albums that I downloaded for free LEGALLY, and Pennywise released their 9th studio album Reason to Believe as a free download so I have that too.

I basically bought all my CDs in one go, apart from the latest Green Day one. CDs are way too expensive at chain stores. The Metallica one say was 12 pound 99 at HMV but at independent record stores it'd be like 4 quid. Problem is think there aren't any independent metal or punk rock record shops left in this city I think....probably a couple for some combination of hip hop/reggae/R&B/dance music still though, but not even sure about that.
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21st Century Breakdown is a helluva lot better than 1039 Smoothed Out/Slappy Hours. Half of the songs in that one are all the same thing.
 
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1039 is way better. The songs on that "first album" are lyrically better I'd say and just more different from standard pop music whereas 21st Century to me sounded like an album designed to just sell lots of records by sounding like everyone else. The first album has a lot of love songs that's true, but some of those are about different situations (seeing a random girl in a public place (At The Library), liking a girl locally (Judge's Daughter) and then ones about breaking up or being with someone already). On 21st Century Breakdown the songs seem to be more based on repetitive vocals (I say "seem" because I haven't heard it for a few years) whereas on the first album there was a bit more instrumental focus in part including a few guitar solos (not amazing solos or anything but still). The lyrics on the first album seem more heartfelt and have more substance whereas 21st Century Breakdown is full of shallow political songs. I like political songs, but 21st Century Breakdown is so shallow (as in lacking in detail) that I don't see the point of listening to it. American Idiot was quite shallow too but I liked the sound of it more since it didn't just sound like a repetitive pop album, but tbh if that came out now I probably wouldn't like it either (when it came out I'd never really liked or listened to music in the past). A lot of it is just down to me finding the lyrics to the pre-American Idiot albums more relatable too, but I do think the lyrical quality of American Idiot and 21st Century Breakdown is poor, since like I said it's just not detailed enough, which political stuff should be.
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Being different from pop music doesn't necessarily make it better, the lyrics were just as shallow as on 21st Century Breakdown, and all the songs sound the same. I'm not really sure what substance you're talking about here, as it really shows they were 17 when they recorded it. The instrumental aspects aren't different from the rest of their albums. Outside of the guitar solos, they're still playing the same 3 powerchord stuff they've always been doing. So musically, it's the same as what they do after.

It's just hiding behind indie-cred rather than being a major label, which I'm pretty sure people will think it's a shitty album if it was released after Dookie rather than before. It's just a really mediocre album. I actually think it's the worst in their catalog as I feel there's nothing interesting about that album. Mind you I actually own all of their albums
 
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I'm say that it being different from pop music made it better. However if it sounds the same as most pop music then I don't see the point in listening to it since I could just listen to other pop music instead.

I don't think the lyrics are as shallow as 21st Century Breakdown. For love songs the lyrics on the "first album" aren't shallow, while for political songs the lyrics on the last album are very low quality, possibly the lowest I've heard since they have no depth. Dead Kennedys, Lowkey and Rage Against the Machine would be three artists that have political lyrics with far more depth for example. Green Day's political songs basically amount to "I don't like the government and they're idiots" with not much in the way of giving reasons or evidence.
Musically it isn't really different to most of their other albums, but I'm comparing it to 21st Century Breakdown specifically. I'd say it's still instrumentally more unique and maybe more complex in how it sounds than 21st Century Breakdown.

Not sure if you're accusing me there but I'm not hiding behind some indie thing - I despise that. I like their albums between Dookie and American Idiot anyway, and those are all major label albums, and if I only liked one album more than another because it's indie I wouldn't have given all the reasons I gave in my last post. Like I said a big reason I like that album (and all their albums pre-21st Century Breakdown too) is it's relatability too.
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Musically it isn't really different to most of their other albums, but I'm comparing it to 21st Century Breakdown specifically. I'd say it's still instrumentally more unique and maybe more complex in how it sounds than 21st Century Breakdown.
Just by reading this comment, I can tell you don't play any instruments, which I really despise when people comment on musical complexity when they don't play instruments. 1039 is musically very simple, and 21st Century Breakdown isn't prog standards when it comes to musical complexity, but it is a lot more complex than 1039, as 21st Century utilizes multiple guitar parts, guitar layering, as in they layer multiple guitar sounds together, shifting tempos, changes in dynamics, sometimes multiple times in the same song, and utilizing different instruments. While the bass isn't as melodic as their earlier albums, there are a bit more variety of grooves going on. Even the drums, while not super complex, change things up, as if you listen to a lot of the drumlines in 1039, they're actually pretty samey throughout. I'm not a drummer and can't comment too much on them, but you can hear a variety with what's going on, rather than hearing the same drumlines in a majority of the songs.

You can even comment on song structure here. While both albums have songs that follow the simple intro, verse, chorus, verse, chorus, bridge, chorus, format, 1039 stays in that format pretty much the entire album, while 21st Century has songs that stray from that simple format. Verse 2 is different from verse 1, and then some. Face value they're not even in the same ballpark.

Some songs end in a different way than the song starts like the title track. Or some songs like Before the Lobotomy start one way, then go into a sound shift, then the ending is a mashup of the full band in the middle section with the melody of the beginning of the song.

Dry Ice may sound impressive for those who don't really play guitar, but the solo really only sounds flashier because it's fast, but it's really a pretty simple pentatonic scale. The opening isn't really that complex, as they're really only arpeggiating notes in a chord

Here let's look at how much more guitar music there is for Dry Ice:
http://tabs.ultimate-guitar.com/g/green_day/dry_ice_tab.htm

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21st Century Breakdown:
http://tabs.ultimate-guitar.com/g/green_day/21st_century_breakdown_ver5_tab.htm

I rest my case on musical complexity, and I heavily despise when people start throwing things around like musical complexity despite not being able to play instruments.

As for lyrics not being shallow in 1039, how is a song that's straight up saying "I love this girl but she doesn't like me back" not shallow? Just because it's a love song doesn't mean that the lyrics have to be paper thin. You can listen to good love songs and see that they have more going on in the lyrics and are more creative than just saying "zomg she doesn't recognize me, zomg I love her so much, but I can't talk to her".

Mind you I find 21st Century Breakdown to be the second worse Green Day album after 1039, so I'm not necessarily a fan of either album. Insomiac is my favorite from them, but it's also probably the second weakest in the musical department after Kerplunk.
 
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Can't stand Green Day so I won't comment there ^^

I bought three copies of Alter Bridge's Fortress. Much rejoicing was to be had.
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