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| Topic Started: Jan 2 2014, 12:54 PM (350 Views) | |
| suckas | Jan 2 2014, 12:54 PM Post #1 |
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Do you think about this a lot? When you hear Irish music say a lot of you will probably be able to say quite quickly "this is some kind of Irish music" but why can you tell it's Irish? Then if you hear Japanese music or Armenian music or whatever and you can tell it's from there how can you differentiate that from music from elsewhere? Can you empirically describe the differences? Is there a field of study for this stuff? Interests me quite a lot, along with how throughout history the musical cultures of different regions have influence from other regions' musical cultures, and influence them back. Was just gonna listen to music, now I'm listening to random Thai/Cambodian/Indonesian/Bhutanese/probs something else next music and wondering about all this stuff again.... First Indonesian song I put on sounded quite similar to a lot of Northern South Asian music, which makes sense since SE Asia is next to South Asia....but then the next stuff I was listening to from Cambodia sounded more like Chinese stuff I've heard....which makes sense too, since SE Asia's near East Asia too. Edited by suckas, Jan 2 2014, 01:18 PM.
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| Mystic | Jan 2 2014, 01:29 PM Post #2 |
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I guess it's sorta traditional to dance around like an underage schoolgirl to techno in Japan ![]() I dunno, honestly, it's just something I can't explain. It's like, if we hear somebody on the radio, without once seeing their face, chances are, we can tell the colour of their skin due to their voice. There's a band called "Living Colour" to whom sing CM Punk's song, and I was kinda shocked to find out that the singer was black. I know, no race sounds all the same, but British people sound British, Australians sound Australians, blacks sound black, and Americans sound American. Can't really explain it further.
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| Wahnsinn | Jan 2 2014, 01:53 PM Post #3 |
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Yeah, you can often guess right about someone's skin colour, age, looks or anything else, but of course there'll be exceptions. I heard many people saying that they expected Eminem to be black. Anyway, I can't explain it either, but I assume it has something to do with the instruments and with the style. For example, latin music might have those rattles and stuff and sounds very spicy (lol), while something that sounds irish probably has flutes or something like that in it and sounds quite jolly. I can often tell if something is asian or european, black or white or even gypsy sounding. I guess that's the most I can say to that. Good question btw. |
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| suckas | Jan 2 2014, 02:36 PM Post #4 |
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Lol no. You can tell where someone is from yes, but you can't tell their ethnicity or skin colour from their voice, just their community yes maybe....like "oh he's from New South Wales" or "he's from a Black American neighbourhood" but if someone is Nigerian was raised in Liverpool, UK they're gonna sound the same as an Irish person who was raised in Liverpool, UK. Accent isn't something genetic or unchangeable. I'm more talking about vocal style or instrumentation than accent. If you go by accent then most British singers sound American.... I mean the fact you can often tell that a melody is from a certain region (eg-Ireland). So what's the actual difference between different music then? The bpm? The pitch? Obviously the instruments vary since different regions have difference instruments that they use and have used for hundreds of years. |
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| Mystic | Jan 2 2014, 03:47 PM Post #5 |
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Lol. I know you can change voices and stuff, I'm just saying, generally speaking, I could probably tell a black from a white with success. But I know what you mean. I've listened to my voice, and I don't think I have a huge Australian accent. I guess it's a mix of culture and tradition. |
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| Wahnsinn | Jan 5 2014, 10:06 AM Post #6 |
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I guess bpm, pitch, instruments and just everythin added together results in you being able to tell where it's from. I don't know what the main reason would be. Yeah, the instruments vary and are a obvious factor, but some countries use the same ones, yet still sound different. So the style of the songs is something too. |
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| crashbreaka | Jan 5 2014, 09:23 PM Post #7 |
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Of course! Anyways, I think the difference is that it's different. And I'm not even being a smartass. Literally everything could be different, from the instruments to how they play them to the arrangement. It's finding the similarities in this music where you can associate them to a given form. Take this random song I pulled off Youtube for example: First off, those instruments are Chinese as f**k, so that's one thing crossed off the list. But when you listen to it, it seems to be generally just some sort of pipe of sorts playing over a minor scale (pretty sure it's minor ), while the guitar-thingy plays along with it. Then you get those super boss drums, gongs, harps etc. going on in the background. But then there's how they play it as well. The guitar-thing is being played quite jutteringlyand without long note, while the pipes are getting accented and 'shaken' all over the place. It also tends to finish with quite a long note. I could probably get a lot more in depth but that's generally the sound of traditional Chinese music. I don't think there's anything else that closely resembles it anywhere else in the world. On a side note, how f**king appropriate is this emoticon for this thread:
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| Wahnsinn | Jan 6 2014, 04:03 AM Post #8 |
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Very appropriate.![]() Good job bragging with your music knowledge. I didn't go as detailed as you did, but what you said obviously sounds good. Let's see if suckas will be satisfied with this. |
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| suckas | Jan 6 2014, 04:32 AM Post #9 |
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What's the field of study though? Is all old "Chinese" music slow though (putting it in speech marks because I know China is a big country with different cultures, so in a way this whole discussion is flawed since there are big differences in musical style within China)? And really you say there's nothing that closely resembles that sort of music from elsewhere, but would you not say that a lot of Japanese folk/traditional music is more similar to folk/traditional like that which you posted, than say Irish folk/traditional music? And when you hear the 2 pieces I linked to in the opening post would you say that the 2nd one sounds more like the music you posted than the other one does? If so that must mean they have some elements in common with the Chinese music you posted. |
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| crashbreaka | Jan 6 2014, 09:09 AM Post #10 |
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It's quite a hard subject to contemplate so I thought I'd just rip apart some music instead Depends where you live. Over here you can go for a Ph.D in music. Basically ~15 years of studying everything there is to know about music. I'll get back to this later, got somewhere to be at the moment. |
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), while the guitar-thingy plays along with it. Then you get those super boss drums, gongs, harps etc. going on in the background.



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