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The Defense Initiative
Topic Started: Mar 23 2014, 02:10 AM (541 Views)
Mara Sargon
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Hello once again, GRA. I have an update that you may find relevant to your interests.

Aura Hyperia advertises itself as raider/defender, but we've never done much with the second half of that. This is about to change. Upon completion of our current invasion, we are committing to nothing short of all-out war with the Black Riders. Specifically, we intend to duplicate their policy of tag raiding and direct it toward dismantling their embassies. The regions we hit will be hooked up via embassy to a hub region so we can keep an eye on them and make sure they aren't re-raided.

Like many raiders, we're pretty fed up with the Black Riders' shenanigans, and we're really damn tired of Defender inaction on this front that makes the R/D game quite boring for the likes of our region. So, I suppose you could say we're making a temporary switch to being "the good guys" for the duration of this initiative.

I bring it up here because I am wondering if the GRA would be interested in joining us. We will be coordinating via our Mibbit channel once this campaign begins, if any of you want to drop by during that time. We're willing to work out other arrangements for coordination with volunteers as needed.

Thank you for your time, and I hope we have many successes.
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Thanks Mara, we will take into consideration your call.
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Mara Sargon
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I'm interested in knowing why you've identified me as an Empress in this thread when I've only ever referred to myself in the masculine (Emperor); which I do for a reason, I might add. ;)
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Jonewest
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You have a girly avatar, this is the GRA, we take assumptions easily.
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Joe Bobs
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The GRA - home of the nerdrush. :P
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I've only heard mara used as a girl's name.
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Mara Sargon
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Mar 24 2014, 06:06 PM
I've only heard mara used as a girl's name.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mara_(demon)
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Culture[edit]

Mara (folklore), a specter or wraith-like creature in Germanic and particularly Scandinavian folklore
Mara (goddess), from Latvian mythology
Mara, also Marzanna, Murava, Morana, Moréna or Morena, in Slavic mythology, the goddess of darkness, death, winter, the Moon and horror
Mara (demon), a "demon" of the Buddhist cosmology, the personification of Temptation
Mara (Hindu goddess), the goddess of death according to Hindu mythology
Sri Mara or Mara Varma, an honorific title of the Pandya kings of south India
Mara, a mantra told to Valmiki to chant in Hindu mythology
Mara, an abbreviation of Mayura (Sanskrit word for peacock)

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Mara Sargon
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From the People's Assembly thread on this:

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to put it bluntly, this is a recruitment poster and they are not our allies. They are looking for individuals to join their irc channel...

I really couldn't care less who or how many people are on the IRC channel. It's a tool, nothing more.

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So before we do ally with them, we have to realize that this is only temporary for them and afterwards, we could be left high and dry.

I don't see how anything we're doing would leave you "high and dry."

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Besides that, they are only addressing tag raids, which aren't that egregious in the first place, with tag raids. and their excuse for doing so is to set up a central hub to monitor those regions, which is blatantly an attempt to publicize their own region because you can simply dossier those regions and monitor them that way.

The hub region lets us see if embassies are being canceled, which is a lot easier to see at a glance. If I used my dossier, I'd have to click each individual region.

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you could even have a programmer write a script which could monitor them for you.

We don't have a programmer who can write such a script.

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this appears to be a quasi-raider region that is envious of another raider region's infamy and at least wants the same level of fame.

lolno. I have never publicized a damn thing we do, and I don't plan to start. Our work is strictly limited to the frontier, always has been, and always will be for the foreseeable future.

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it won't be successful turning other raider regions against TBX and it will find itself isolated all too soon just like we will if we decide to follow an interesting idea to the all too familiar end.

I don't give a crap what raiders do, because I go out of my way to avoid friendly contact with them. We're builders. If building is not something that interests you, feel free to stick with the stagnant, unmotivated defense game.

Do not mistake my inviting you along for needing your support. Your criticism, with regards to our motivations, betrays total ignorance of our guiding philosophy. I do not appreciate being called a liar.
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Mara please take what is said in consideration that this is the GRA, we play a little differently here.
Ambassadors are not given the same treatment as elsewhere, but that is not necessarily a good or bad thing.
We treat everyone about the same here, except for Uropa. He is a ginger, we hate gingers.

We generally have an open ambassador forum masking (as is you are allowed the same masking privilege of a resident of the GRA) but if things like this are a threat to our diplomatic ties, it might need to be changed.
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to put it bluntly, this is a recruitment poster and they are not our allies. They are looking for individuals to join their irc channel.

I'm wondering what we have to gain from people joining an IRC channel they don't even need to be in our region to access. It's for co-ordination, it's not as if we get some kind of "points" or "rankings" from you visiting our IRC channel.
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Mara Sargon
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Jonewest
Mar 24 2014, 09:04 PM
Mara please take what is said in consideration that this is the GRA, we play a little differently here.
Ambassadors are not given the same treatment as elsewhere, but that is not necessarily a good or bad thing.
We treat everyone about the same here, except for Uropa. He is a ginger, we hate gingers.

We generally have an open ambassador forum masking (as is you are allowed the same masking privilege of a resident of the GRA) but if things like this are a threat to our diplomatic ties, it might need to be changed.
The excuse that you do things differently is irrelevant. You are hardly unique in that regard.

If you have frustrations stemming from my ability to see your government threads, you shouldn't let non-citizens see them. You can't expect me to ignore insults when they are plainly visible for me to see. (Not that doing it behind my back is any better.)
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Joe Bobs
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Mara Sargon
Mar 24 2014, 09:25 PM
Jonewest
Mar 24 2014, 09:04 PM
Mara please take what is said in consideration that this is the GRA, we play a little differently here.
Ambassadors are not given the same treatment as elsewhere, but that is not necessarily a good or bad thing.
We treat everyone about the same here, except for Uropa. He is a ginger, we hate gingers.

We generally have an open ambassador forum masking (as is you are allowed the same masking privilege of a resident of the GRA) but if things like this are a threat to our diplomatic ties, it might need to be changed.
The excuse that you do things differently is irrelevant. You are hardly unique in that regard.

If you have frustrations stemming from my ability to see your government threads, you shouldn't let non-citizens see them. You can't expect me to ignore insults when they are plainly visible for me to see. (Not that doing it behind my back is any better.)
Just to explain,

Firstly, Jonewest meant we have open discussion. Everyone is allowed to express their opinion even if it's completely against everything we have, and we don't suppress that. Total freedom of speech (well, apart from Zetaboards ToS).

Secondly, I think he meant you're welcome to post in the People's Assembly too, we don't have separate privileges for citizens, residents and visitors in terms of viewing. The only protected forum is our military one.

Thirdly, I don't hate gingers.

So, with that in mind, I hope you'll appreciate that we are discussing your proposal in the open for you to see, and inviting you to engage in that discussion. That may include that things against your idea are said, as SL did, and I hope you won't be offended but will join in the discussion.
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Joe Bobs
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Mara, Frostmark - Please could you elaborate on what kind of methods would be used in this war on TBR? E.g. detagging, raiding, liberating, etc.
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MS
 
I do not appreciate being called a liar.
I apologize for assuming you said and did the things that you did tacitly when it was out of stupidity and ignorance. go be naive elsewhere, I have no patience for it. this place is obviously different from anywhere you've been if you take open and frank opinions about interregional affairs personally. this is not the way you go about gaining military support, either of individuals or regions. you go directly to a region's appropriate government minister and bring the matter to them and find out how they want to handle it. anything else is an insult and can be taken as subverting their government.

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I bring it up here because I am wondering if the GRA would be interested in joining us. We will be coordinating via our Mibbit channel once this campaign begins, if any of you want to drop by during that time. We're willing to work out other arrangements for coordination with volunteers as needed.
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I really couldn't care less who or how many people are on the IRC channel. It's a tool, nothing more.
Let me spell it out for you. your transgression was that you were recruiting volunteers and I was stating specifics so my fellow GRAers could see. it never should have needed stating.

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We don't have a programmer who can write such a script.

you're "we" is an awfully small "we" then. and that's the reason why we're aligned with other defenders because they do have programmers.

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this appears to be a quasi-raider region that is envious of another raider region's infamy and at least wants the same level of fame.

lolno. I have never publicized a damn thing we do, and I don't plan to start. Our work is strictly limited to the frontier, always has been, and always will be for the foreseeable future.
hmmm. I could swear I just read something about that a few posts above this one... you never publicize a thing yet post every initiative in your embassies.

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I don't give a crap what raiders do, because I go out of my way to avoid friendly contact with them. We're builders. If building is not something that interests you, feel free to stick with the stagnant, unmotivated defense game.
again with your propaganda. how many times has Istanbul been renamed, each time by their liberator?
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Joe Bobs
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Mar 24 2014, 10:42 PM
MS
 
I do not appreciate being called a liar.
I apologize for assuming you said and did the things that you did tacitly when it was out of stupidity and ignorance. go be naive elsewhere, I have no patience for it. this place is obviously different from anywhere you've been if you take open and frank opinions about interregional affairs personally. this is not the way you go about gaining military support, either of individuals or regions. you go directly to a region's appropriate government minister and bring the matter to them and find out how they want to handle it. anything else is an insult and can be taken as subverting their government.
Just want to pick up on this - I don't agree with you there SL, I'd far rather something be shared in the open for discussion.
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Mara Sargon
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I apologize for assuming you said and did the things that you did tacitly when it was out of stupidity and ignorance. go be naive elsewhere, I have no patience for it. this place is obviously different from anywhere you've been if you take open and frank opinions about interregional affairs personally. this is not the way you go about gaining military support, either of individuals or regions. you go directly to a region's appropriate government minister and bring the matter to them and find out how they want to handle it. anything else is an insult and can be taken as subverting their government.

So I bring something that belongs in an embassy to the embassy, and your response is that I shouldn't have put it in the embassy? You're literally the only person so far taking a hostile reaction to my post, so I'd say you're the only naive one here. Also, uhfuck you. 8)

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Let me spell it out for you. your transgression was that you were recruiting volunteers and I was stating specifics so my fellow GRAers could see. it never should have needed stating.

*scans the post*

Hmm... nope, nothing about directly soliciting volunteers without government approval. Guess you're just lying. Also, uhfuck you. 8)

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you're "we" is an awfully small "we" then. and that's the reason why we're aligned with other defenders because they do have programmers.

I think you may have missed the part where we were trying to become aligned with a defender region, at least until a certain member decided that I needed to be chewed out. Also, uhfuck you. 8)

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hmmm. I could swear I just read something about that a few posts above this one... you never publicize a thing yet post every initiative in your embassies.

I let exactly 3 regions I'm friendly with know that I was doing something relevant to their interests. ZOMG, ALL OF NATIONSTATES KNOWS OUR SECRET NOW! Also, uhfuck you. 8)

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again with your propaganda. how many times has Istanbul been renamed, each time by their liberator?

If I felt the need to use propaganda, I wouldn't be wording this response the way I am. Also, uhfuck you. 8)
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Mara Sargon
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Mar 24 2014, 10:41 PM
Mara, Frostmark - Please could you elaborate on what kind of methods would be used in this war on TBR? E.g. detagging, raiding, liberating, etc.
I'll just post the procedure I'm drawing up. Still a work in progress mind you.

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What's going to be required in this program is getting lists together of regions who hit update one after the other. NationStates++ will be needed to see the update times, obviously. Having a bunch of lists in advance is not optimal, since the situations of those regions could easily change before we got to them. Therefore, the people committing to these raids at a particular update will need to put their lists together not that long before setting out, probably about an hour before update starts.

It would be easier if we had a script, but as far as I know we have no script writers


We'll replace the Black Rider flag with a peace sign at each region we hit:

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Then, after removing all the tags, we'll put a simple liberation message in the WFE:

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This region has been liberated by [region]The Commonwealth of Regions[/region]. The natives may return to their drinks.


Finally, we'll leave an embassy to our jumping-off point at Realm of Dragons, so we can make sure any embassy cancelations are due to the natives regaining control and not a re-raid by the Black Riders.


Questions? Comments? Concerns? Suggestions, even?
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I apologize for assuming you said and did the things that you did tacitly when it was out of stupidity and ignorance. go be naive elsewhere, I have no patience for it.
I really have to question the necessity of this kind of tone. I honestly can't fault Mara for how he responded to this.
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It's an interesting idea Mara. Personally, I don't like the idea of forcing liberated regions to have an embassy with your launch region, it can look like using them for self-promotion, which is part of what we dislike TBR for. I know you said it makes it easier than clicking through a dossier, but you have to balance that against how it will look.

I like using the peace logo for detagging though, nice touch.
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