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Founded - 30 April 2005
Population - 165 Nations
World Ranking - 61
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Government of the Global Right Alliance


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Angusp (aka Bodegraven)

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The Defense Initiative
Topic Started: Mar 23 2014, 02:10 AM (544 Views)
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Mar 24 2014, 11:37 PM
It's an interesting idea Mara. Personally, I don't like the idea of forcing liberated regions to have an embassy with your launch region, it can look like using them for self-promotion, which is part of what we dislike TBR for. I know you said it makes it easier than clicking through a dossier, but you have to balance that against how it will look.

I like using the peace logo for detagging though, nice touch.
If the natives don't want it, they can get rid of it. We have no intention of wresting control from them. Would some kind of disclaimer in the WFE explaining that the embassy is for surveillance purposes and is entirely optional ease your concerns?
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Frostmark
Mar 24 2014, 11:47 PM
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Mar 24 2014, 11:37 PM
It's an interesting idea Mara. Personally, I don't like the idea of forcing liberated regions to have an embassy with your launch region, it can look like using them for self-promotion, which is part of what we dislike TBR for. I know you said it makes it easier than clicking through a dossier, but you have to balance that against how it will look.

I like using the peace logo for detagging though, nice touch.
If the natives don't want it, they can get rid of it. We have no intention of wresting control from them. Would some kind of disclaimer in the WFE explaining that the embassy is for surveillance purposes and is entirely optional ease your concerns?
What about getting the explicit agreement of the natives? So you could have it as a statement from them?
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Mara Sargon
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Mar 24 2014, 11:37 PM
It's an interesting idea Mara. Personally, I don't like the idea of forcing liberated regions to have an embassy with your launch region, it can look like using them for self-promotion, which is part of what we dislike TBR for. I know you said it makes it easier than clicking through a dossier, but you have to balance that against how it will look.
True enough. I do everything else the hard way anyway, so if we go with that suggestion it wouldn't be a major inconvenience. I'll wait for you to respond to Frostmark.

EDIT: Damn ninja. :P
Edited by Mara Sargon, Mar 25 2014, 12:26 AM.
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So I bring something that belongs in an embassy to the embassy, and your response is that I shouldn't have put it in the embassy? You're literally the only person so far taking a hostile reaction to my post, so I'd say you're the only naive one here.
embassies are channels of communication between regions for communities to keep in touch. nothing about their mechanics entail direct communication between governments.

the solicitation to anyone
 
I bring it up here because I am wondering if the GRA would be interested in joining us. We will be coordinating via our Mibbit channel once this campaign begins, if any of you want to drop by during that time. We're willing to work out other arrangements for coordination with volunteers as needed.
but where is the polite, formal request to our government to recruit our people? the government can't say no after the solicitation.

detagging is not retagging. there are caches of the region's pages and scripts which save their flags so the wfe's and flags can be restored. one nation then telegrams the oldest native, the second if he looks like he going to CTE, and lets them know what happened. it makes no difference if you take one random wfe and flag and change them. they aren't the natives'.

and you didn't even use the cool glasses. :gtech:

now who are you, frostmart? are there more of you coming?
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Mar 25 2014, 12:30 AM
now who are you, frostmart? are there more of you coming?
Uh, what? I would have thought the bold and blue signature would be easy to read.
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We can't read here! We just mumble into our DragonSpeaks until the pretty pictures change! :)
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what are you doing here culture person?
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Mar 25 2014, 12:52 AM
what are you doing here culture person?
Imperial Officers are quite autonomous. Sorry if you feel I have no right to talk, I'm here because I'm interested enough to be.
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Mara Sargon
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embassies are channels of communication between regions for communities to keep in touch. nothing about their mechanics entail direct communication between governments.

You have a rather strange idea of what embassies are actually used for, then. I've been around the block a few times, and this ain't exactly an unusual use of embassy space.

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but where is the polite, formal request to our government to recruit our people?

Did you just not read the part where I was addressing the region? Normal people would take that to mean I'm addressing the government. Then again, I think we have firmly established at this point that you're just being contrary for the sake of it.

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detagging is not retagging. there are caches of the region's pages and scripts which save their flags so the wfe's and flags can be restored. one nation then telegrams the oldest native, the second if he looks like he going to CTE, and lets them know what happened. it makes no difference if you take one random wfe and flag and change them. they aren't the natives'.

Maybe you haven't noticed, but we kinda think the FRA is retarded. We harp on defender inaction for a reason.

Now, here is my best evidence that you're just not reading anything Frostmark and I say:
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now who are you, frostmart? are there more of you coming?

Just because my Imperial Officers don't do up their signatures quite as elaborately as I do doesn't mean they are any less important for you to read. The very first tenet of our ideology is, "Every available tool should be exploited to its limits." Signatures are as much a tool as anything else. But then, as I said, it's obvious that you've never bothered reading anything of ours.
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Mara Sargon
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Mar 25 2014, 12:52 AM
what are you doing here culture person?
Doing one of his jobs. He's in charge of one department. That doesn't mean it's all he does. But again, you've already proven that you suck at reading between the lines.
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third time I'm quoting this
 
I bring it up here because I am wondering if the GRA would be interested in joining us. We will be coordinating via our Mibbit channel once this campaign begins, if any of you want to drop by during that time. We're willing to work out other arrangements for coordination with volunteers as needed.
embassies are viewable to every single person in a region, meaning everything said is addressed to the entire region, not just the government. so when you ask if any of you want to drop by, I'm pretty sure that normal people take it to mean anyone. you needed to have asked our government before you made that public invitation to join your military endeavors.
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Mar 25 2014, 01:25 AM
third time I'm quoting this
 
I bring it up here because I am wondering if the GRA would be interested in joining us. We will be coordinating via our Mibbit channel once this campaign begins, if any of you want to drop by during that time. We're willing to work out other arrangements for coordination with volunteers as needed.
embassies are viewable to every single person in a region, meaning everything said is addressed to the entire region, not just the government. so when you ask if any of you want to drop by, I'm pretty sure that normal people take it to mean anyone. you needed to have asked our government before you made that public invitation to join your military endeavors.
Okay, here's the problem: you see that first line? Well no, obviously you don't, but bear with me. You see, that first line comes with the implication that someone reading this should run it by the government first, at least if they're not already a member of it. Lo and behold, a government discussion was sparked, which I was patiently waiting to have pan out until you decided to come chew me out. Now, does the latter sound like the actions of a man trying to recruit, or trying to get approval? No. So can we conclude, therefore, that I am not, nor was I ever trying to recruit your population? The answer is obviously yes.

Why, then, do you obstinately refuse to acknowledge the obvious?
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SL's from a state where the "obvious" sort of misses Que.
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has anyone ever heard of someone asking their region whether they can join another region or military? I have never heard of anything like that and I have been playing for a while now. so please continue ignoring my very simple statement that you addressed the entire region and invited it to your military thing before you asked the government if you could. as I stated before, I had thought you were doing it tacitly, but you are actually ignorant.
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has anyone ever heard of someone asking their region whether they can join another region or military?

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so please continue ignoring my very simple statement that you addressed the entire region and invited it to your military thing before you asked the government if you could.

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as I stated before, I had thought you were doing it tacitly, but you are actually ignorant.

I think we've pretty well established at this point that you are reading only what you want to read, rather than what I and literally everyone else actually got from it.
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1. regions include both the government and it's citizens

2. embassies are not between governments, they are between regions.

3. you went between regions, not governments when you invited the GRA to your military thing.

what else is there to read?
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Mara Sargon
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Mar 25 2014, 03:39 AM
1. regions include both the government and it's citizens

2. embassies are not between governments, they are between regions.

3. you went between regions, not governments when you invited the GRA to your military thing.

what else is there to read?
1. Embassies are between regions in-game, and between governments on forums.

2. This is a forum.

3. ???

4. Profit!
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You two should get a room.
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if embassies are only used by governments on forums then why do all the citizens view and post in them?

I'm not an AI. I don't think you can break me with paradoxes.
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Mar 25 2014, 04:03 AM
if embassies are only used by governments on forums then why do all the citizens view and post in them?

I'm not an AI. I don't think you can break me with paradoxes.
Because the people who join NS forums are -now bear with me, because this is a pretty high-brow concept- the ones who get involved with government. Shocking, I know.

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