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| Civil Strife in Carnalian | |
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| Topic Started: Sep 22 2005, 04:06 PM (451 Views) | |
| Carnalian | Oct 1 2005, 06:50 PM Post #21 |
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Fighter4u said
If this is true will fighter4u declare war on Cranalian if it invades Gada. |
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| Carnalian | Oct 1 2005, 06:53 PM Post #22 |
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Being in our country and commiting high treason in Carnalian and are therefore subject to our punishments. We advise Jivdom not to meddle in our affairs further. |
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| Jivdom | Oct 1 2005, 06:56 PM Post #23 |
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MEDDLE IN YOUR AFFAIRS??? Concerning OUR citizens!! IF these people are executed by your nation then you will have murdered some of our citizens! |
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| fighter4u | Oct 1 2005, 09:26 PM Post #24 |
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our land is fill with blood may our people know only love.....
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Car.That if your killing get out of hand.We offer 5000 vetern harden mens to lead your attack to make sure that because these people our terriost they wouldn't be kill out of hated and fear.If you let us we will take the ctiy b ourself and deport the terrisotsto our country.Their we respect their chocies.The bombers will be hand over to you including jviom people. Jviom they attack Car nation.He had the right to do with them as he wish.If you harm the nation,which will harm my chances of saving these people you will have us to meet with.My people will rise to arm to defend those that ask for it.They(the terrisots had ask for it)so they will get it.We have honror!!!!! |
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| Jivdom | Oct 1 2005, 09:30 PM Post #25 |
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I stand by what i say If Jivdoms people are killied by another government outside of open war then it is Illegal and it is murder |
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| fighter4u | Oct 2 2005, 01:58 AM Post #26 |
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our land is fill with blood may our people know only love.....
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jviom it may be for you.But for us it is not.I say car you can hang them.Jviom can't do much about it unless he want war but he all about love and peace. |
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| Greeenpeace | Oct 2 2005, 10:15 AM Post #27 |
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Before Carnalian may Excecute these supposed 'Terrorists'. Might there not be a chance of a fair trial open to the International public in which 4 Judges would stand, 2 Carnalian and 2 Jivdomese, thus giving a trial that would allow both parties a certain measure of Justice. Greenpeace sees why Jivdom is so certain to protect its citizens, given the Carnalian Government's somewhat Military approach at ruling Carnalian. However if these people are 'Terrorist' then Greenpeace no dought believe that they can be extradited to Carnalian to await punishment in the country they broke the Law in. Greenpeace would be happy to send Peacekeepers to the affected region of Gada in an effort to humble violence escalating in the region. OOC- I'm assuming I already have a country or do I have to go through a lengthy Beauracratic process? Also, I hope this is all In Character fun. Might I also suggest founding of The GRA Union, which would act a little like the UN and perhaps be less corrupt. Send me a message if your interested in co-founding. |
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| Jivdom | Oct 2 2005, 08:03 PM Post #28 |
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All Very wise!
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| fighter4u | Oct 3 2005, 12:27 AM Post #29 |
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our land is fill with blood may our people know only love.....
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I want to take the ctiy by my self.The terrisot will be taken to my country the bombers hand over to Car to do with that that he want. |
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| Jen O the Hill | Oct 3 2005, 11:05 AM Post #30 |
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JOH intel reports that fighter4u only wishes to send troops into Carnalian to set the stage for possible war in that nation. As fighter4u has looked for bloodshed on all fronts to this point, there is no reason to think otherwise. fighter4u seems to be wishy-washy in his stance on things. First he threatens war on Carnalian for their intent to execute the suspected bombers. The he critcizes Jivdom by saying Carnalian can do with them as he wishes. Does fighter4u even know where he stands on this. I would have to agree with Greenpeace. A joint council of judges would be the way to go. However I would carry this a bit further. It would seem a better idea to hold these trials in a neutral nation that will respect the ruling of a joint court. It is therefore my suggestion would be to hold the trial in JOH. 2 judges each from Carnalian and Jivdom would preside over the hearings. I also suggest that another judge from elswhere, to be agreed upon by both nations, preside as well. The fifth judge will only cast his decision should the trial remain at a deadlock for an extended period of time. If this is agreed upon, I also suggest that the accused be remanded into joint custody of JOH and Greenpeace forces until such time as the trial is concluded. These steps would ensure a fair trial for the accused as well as ensure that judgement passed would be enforced. fighter4u will not be allowed to participate in any such action that takes place in JOH. |
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| Greeenpeace | Oct 3 2005, 04:15 PM Post #31 |
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Greenpeace confers with JOH. |
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| Carnalian | Oct 3 2005, 05:54 PM Post #32 |
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The two Jivdomese terrorists were today executed. Both men were hung at dawn. We will not except any military help from Fighter4u or its offer as this is a blatent act of war. These extremists in Gada cannot be allowed to escape. |
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| Jivdom | Oct 3 2005, 06:02 PM Post #33 |
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The people of Jivdom today began a boycott of all things Carnalian And encourage other to do to same. Carnalian Murdered Two of Jivdoms citizens without any apparent trial |
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| Carnalian | Oct 3 2005, 06:07 PM Post #34 |
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The bombardment of Gada started today one minute after the two extremists were executed. It started with light artillery finishing with airstrikes in the late evening.![]() ![]() |
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| Greeenpeace | Oct 3 2005, 06:22 PM Post #35 |
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Greenpeace severs diplomatic relations with Carnalian and closes all trade with the nation. We give full support to Jivdom and its people, furthermore we give full support to the Gadans whom Greenpeace now knows why they have not tolerated living in the fake, military proped Democracy. Greenpeace will bring this matter to the GRA Union, so that effective action may be taken against this injustice. |
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| Jivdom | Oct 3 2005, 07:39 PM Post #36 |
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Jivdom thanks Greenpeace for showing its support to our protest. |
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| Jen O the Hill | Oct 4 2005, 05:59 AM Post #37 |
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JOH has also begun a boycott of Carnalian items. The embassy in Carnalian has also been suspended. We will await the decision of the GRA Union before taking further action. |
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| Carnalian | Oct 4 2005, 04:06 PM Post #38 |
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We are defending ourselves against terrorism and as a result our country is being boycotted. Let this be known that anyone captured and suspected of terrorism in Carnalain will be executed whether they come from a different country or not. These unfair boycotts will not be fogotten in Carnalin. Yes our economy will be damaged but we will continue our holy crusade against the terrorists and their sympathisers. Orders have been given to advance into Gada. |
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| Jivdom | Oct 4 2005, 06:18 PM Post #39 |
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Carnalian, whilst I am Against the death penalty that is not why Jivdom is angry, you killed two of Jivdom's citizens without any form of international trial or for that matter any apparent trial. I don't know how it is with your nation but in Jivdom people are innocent till proven guilty. Its understandable you wish to protect your nation but sinking to the same level as any common thug or murderer isn't (in my opinion) the best way of going about it. Its only through international communication and cooperation that we can Together combat terrorism, rogue nations acting out of anger and taking revenge where ever they can will not be able to carry out justice! |
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| Jen O the Hill | Oct 4 2005, 09:01 PM Post #40 |
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My issue here is the lack of Due Process. It seems at first glance that the Carnalian government is rated very little above that of the alleged terrorists. If you have undeniable proof of the guilt of the executed "terrorists", then produce it. You have a right to defend your borders from within and without, that fact is clear to everyone. But when it becomes an international incident, as in this case, things become a bit more complicated. We do not question your sovreignty, just your methods. |
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