How predictions for Iraq came true

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How predictions for Iraq came true
Topic Started: Apr 12 2006, 12:55 PM (146 Views)
Love and Honour	Apr 12 2006, 12:55 PM Post #1
Yes Sir; No Sir: 3 Bags Full Sir Posts: 12,768 Group: Resident Member #52 Joined: June 29, 2005	Quote: It was a few weeks before the invasion of Iraq, three years ago. I was interviewing the Saudi Foreign Minister, Prince Saud al-Faisal, in the ballroom of a big hotel in Cairo. Shrewd, amusing, bulky in his superb white robes, he described to me all the disasters he was certain would follow the invasion. The US and British troops would be bogged down in Iraq for years. There would be civil war between Sunnis and Shias. The real beneficiary would be the government in Iran. "And what do the Americans say when you tell them this," I asked? "They don't even listen," he said. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4894148.stm



Kozh Heol	Apr 12 2006, 05:55 PM Post #2
Unregistered	Well I think the British and American govts new that they were to be in Iraq for years as installing a democracy,preventing terrorism and stealing oil at the same time doesn't happen over night. Without a strong leader and a country in turmoil civil war between two religous groups is quite certain.
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Love and Honour	Apr 12 2006, 06:05 PM Post #3
Yes Sir; No Sir: 3 Bags Full Sir Posts: 12,768 Group: Resident Member #52 Joined: June 29, 2005	If that is true then they are guilty of Crimes against humanity



Kozh Heol	Apr 12 2006, 09:22 PM Post #4
Unregistered	Yep, but whos going to bring them to justice?
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Love and Honour	Apr 12 2006, 09:25 PM Post #5
Yes Sir; No Sir: 3 Bags Full Sir Posts: 12,768 Group: Resident Member #52 Joined: June 29, 2005	Noone



The Byzantii	Apr 12 2006, 10:04 PM Post #6
Irritant Posts: 768 Group: Resident Member #141 Joined: October 31, 2005	Perhaps history will.



Joe Bobs	Apr 12 2006, 11:35 PM Post #7
GRADF High General \| FRA Arch Chancellor Posts: 10,045 Group: The Architect Member #179 Joined: January 3, 2006 Nation name: Joe Bobs	Good point TB. Well, everyone already knows that the war in Iraq was actually illegal after the scandal about Blair ignoring the Attorney General's advice came out. The war is illegal, therefore Tony Blair and George Dubyah are in fact war criminals. However, there are never war criminals on the winning side, only liberators and those that have spread democracy. Never war criminals. The US already broke the Geneva Convention and Human Rights Act because of torture and sub-human conditions in Guantanamo. If they don't mind breaking human rights laws when ts other Americans, they're not gonna care about some Iraqis are they?



Calculators	Apr 12 2006, 11:37 PM Post #8
How very dare you Posts: 5,815 Group: Resident Member #257 Joined: March 9, 2006	they should but they dont



Love and Honour	Apr 12 2006, 11:38 PM Post #9
Yes Sir; No Sir: 3 Bags Full Sir Posts: 12,768 Group: Resident Member #52 Joined: June 29, 2005	True True



U-ropa	Apr 14 2006, 07:46 PM Post #10
Unregistered	yawn is the 'left' still whinning on about Iraq? christ, how are you guys ever going to plan the revolution when you're complaining about a system you already know engenders injustice? these are real leftys: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Army_Faction you guys are just bloody wannabees.
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The Byzantii	Apr 14 2006, 08:19 PM Post #11
Irritant Posts: 768 Group: Resident Member #141 Joined: October 31, 2005	Quote: these are real leftys: No, they're terrorists. I was for the Iraq War and still am.



Joe Bobs	Apr 14 2006, 08:31 PM Post #12
GRADF High General \| FRA Arch Chancellor Posts: 10,045 Group: The Architect Member #179 Joined: January 3, 2006 Nation name: Joe Bobs	I know someone that was in a militant feminist group. That Red Army thing reminds me of her. haha!



U-ropa	Apr 14 2006, 08:32 PM Post #13
Unregistered	The Byzantii Apr 14 2006, 07:19 PM Quote: these are real leftys: No, they're terrorists. I was for the Iraq War and still am. one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter... :rolleyes2:
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Love and Honour	Apr 14 2006, 08:37 PM Post #14
Yes Sir; No Sir: 3 Bags Full Sir Posts: 12,768 Group: Resident Member #52 Joined: June 29, 2005	I sometimes define terrorism by the methods used. Subjecting civilian populations to acts of murder and mayhem is terrorism.



The Byzantii	Apr 14 2006, 08:38 PM Post #15
Irritant Posts: 768 Group: Resident Member #141 Joined: October 31, 2005	U-ropa Apr 14 2006, 07:32 PM The Byzantii Apr 14 2006, 07:19 PM Quote: these are real leftys: No, they're terrorists. I was for the Iraq War and still am. one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter... :rolleyes2: Che Guevara :rolleyes: Not when you kill innocents.



Joe Bobs	Apr 14 2006, 08:38 PM Post #16
GRADF High General \| FRA Arch Chancellor Posts: 10,045 Group: The Architect Member #179 Joined: January 3, 2006 Nation name: Joe Bobs	Or collateral damage if it's us killing them.



U-ropa	Apr 14 2006, 08:39 PM Post #17
Unregistered	The Byzantii Apr 14 2006, 07:38 PM U-ropa Apr 14 2006, 07:32 PM The Byzantii Apr 14 2006, 07:19 PM Quote: these are real leftys: No, they're terrorists. I was for the Iraq War and still am. one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter... :rolleyes2: Che Guevara :rolleyes: Not when you kill innocents. so? your point is?
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The Byzantii	Apr 14 2006, 08:43 PM Post #18
Irritant Posts: 768 Group: Resident Member #141 Joined: October 31, 2005	A freedom fighter becomes a terrorist when he murders innocents and such. Rather like this - :slice: and ,of course, The RAF



U-ropa	Apr 14 2006, 08:48 PM Post #19
Unregistered	The Byzantii Apr 14 2006, 07:43 PM A freedom fighter becomes a terrorist when he murders innocents and such. Rather like this - :slice: and ,of course, The RAF did the RAF murder innocents? i thought they murdered agents of the capitalist sytem... for a lefty your not going to do very well when the revolution comes, your lack of dedication to revolutionary means will end you up in the gulag with the rest of us...
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The Byzantii	Apr 14 2006, 08:54 PM Post #20
Irritant Posts: 768 Group: Resident Member #141 Joined: October 31, 2005	U-ropa Apr 14 2006, 07:48 PM The Byzantii Apr 14 2006, 07:43 PM A freedom fighter becomes a terrorist when he murders innocents and such. Rather like this - :slice: and ,of course, The RAF did the RAF murder innocents? i thought they murdered agents of the capitalist sytem... for a lefty your not going to do very well when the revolution comes, your lack of dedication to revolutionary means will end you up in the gulag with the rest of us... Perhaps... I'd rather have a clear conscience than support mindless violence under the guise of communism.



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