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| Topic Started: Apr 22 2006, 03:26 AM (615 Views) | |
| Athiestica | Apr 22 2006, 03:26 AM Post #1 |
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I don't understand why people blindly believe in something they can't see or hear. The only record of a god is a the bible and it is just a book. You don't believe everything you read do you? I am wondering if someone could help me understand. |
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| Pidgeon Island | Apr 22 2006, 11:03 AM Post #21 |
Not so stale.
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What about old people, what about children, what about poor people that are on low pay in unskilled jobs, what about people with lifelong illnesses. You expect them to get the money for an operation. I agree with you that people that brought their illness on themselves should be put at the bottom of the waiting list. But what about the good people, you expect them to go into a corner and die? |
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| Calculators | Apr 22 2006, 11:06 AM Post #22 |
How very dare you
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yeah think about the good people like me (i have had 7 ops in my 14 years) |
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| Rinius | Apr 22 2006, 11:11 AM Post #23 |
Hail Mary
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I expect people to pay for what they use,
It's their own fault for not getting an education thus to obtain a reasonable job
What kind of illnesses are we talking about here? My answer to this sentiment could vary... but anyhow under Laissez-faire capitalism there would be many charities for this kind of thing, it's not only good for a companie's image to give charity, it also has many other benifits 
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| Pidgeon Island | Apr 22 2006, 11:18 AM Post #24 |
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But in your little world whether everything's privatised, supposing they couldn't afford an education, supposing they were poor farm workers who couldn't go to school because they had to work the land, or they'd run out of food. Plus, for capitalism to truly work, not everybody can be in a well paying job, there needs to be people to work in factories, there needs to be people working in these unskilled jobs, or else we'd all run out of food and supplies. And if you think these people should die because they're poor, you sir are a failure at life, and it's not often I say things like that. |
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| Calculators | Apr 22 2006, 11:23 AM Post #25 |
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How very dare you
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i think only TUL has been treated to that before
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| Rinius | Apr 22 2006, 11:24 AM Post #26 |
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Hail Mary
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People would get decent pay, actually right now in Australia factory/retail/hospitality workers can afford many things, they can afford to live in a 2 bedroom house with cable tv and the internet... and many other luxuries, under capitalism corporations compete for better production, to keep the workers working and to beat the other companies, they pay their workers nice wages, Capitalism is the only humanitarian system, it heals, Socialism kills (Remember Pol Pot, Stalin, Mao and Hitler?)
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| Kozh Heol | Apr 22 2006, 11:58 AM Post #27 |
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How can Omnicient, Benevolent and Omnipotent at the same time? Rinius. |
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| Athiestica | Apr 22 2006, 05:01 PM Post #28 |
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Socialism doesn't kill communism kills get it straight. If there was a country that did have a system of socialism and followed like Marx believed it would be one of the greatest countries on Earth if not the best. |
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| Rinius | Apr 22 2006, 11:23 PM Post #29 |
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Theres a little trait that humans have and always will have - greed and the need to be better than someone else, socialism can never work because of this. |
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| Northern Chittowa | Apr 22 2006, 11:24 PM Post #30 |
The Grand Old Duke
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The same can be said for Communism |
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| Athiestica | Apr 22 2006, 11:37 PM Post #31 |
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That is right Rinius. But if we supress that trrait then we will be a better species wouldn't we? That would really take us away from the animal kingdom wouldn't it. Greed is the root of all evil and socialism would stamp it out. I think if you don't want socialism then you are for greed. Don't forget it is one of the seven deadly sins. lol |
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| Rinius | Apr 22 2006, 11:43 PM Post #32 |
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Hail Mary
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You telling the human race to supress Greed? heh that would be like saying "Don't eat" which I believe that Hitler has already done to the Jews, and Stalin to the bourgeois... |
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| Athiestica | Apr 22 2006, 11:48 PM Post #33 |
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If we do it then we would better ourselves. |
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| Northern Chittowa | Apr 22 2006, 11:51 PM Post #34 |
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Perhaps, but it is a utopian ideal |
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| Rinius | Apr 22 2006, 11:56 PM Post #35 |
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Hail Mary
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Played Half Life 2? (sorry to relate to a video game) they tried to supress sex and other such things, it was a police state... |
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| Athiestica | Apr 22 2006, 11:57 PM Post #36 |
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To supress greed is not supressing sex. Sex is nessacery as greed is not. |
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| Rinius | Apr 22 2006, 11:59 PM Post #37 |
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Hail Mary
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I'm going to ignore your illiteracy but Sex is necessary, as it is human instinct much like Greed, although we do not need greed perse, it is as human as opposable thumbs... |
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| Athiestica | Apr 23 2006, 12:02 AM Post #38 |
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Greed is what I would say a emotion. We can supress hate or love when needed why not greed all the time? |
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| Rinius | Apr 23 2006, 12:04 AM Post #39 |
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Hail Mary
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It's very hard to supress love, although it's easy to allow hatred, they are very different emotions, Greed is not an emotion, it is part of a human to own more than the next guy, to be better than his neighbour, it would be wonderful if humans did not have greed, but Chittowa is right it is a utopian ideal, and cannot be achieved. |
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| Athiestica | Apr 23 2006, 12:09 AM Post #40 |
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Ofcourse it can't be achieved if you believe it can't. Nothing is ever achieved if you believe it can't be. It also has never been tried so I say someone make a gov. that would make people to supress it. |
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