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Faith
Topic Started: Apr 22 2006, 03:26 AM (611 Views)
Athiestica
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I don't understand why people blindly believe in something they can't see or hear. The only record of a god is a the bible and it is just a book. You don't believe everything you read do you? I am wondering if someone could help me understand.
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Golgoroth
Apr 24 2006, 01:19 AM
Athesitica
Apr 24 2006, 01:10 AM

" You got to be F-ing kidding me"
Now I am calm. I am an atheist and you are telling me I am mateialistic. lol
Everyone is if you took  a look around. You got a computer don't you or do you go over to someones house and write this. Most atheists just tend not to believe in god that is all and they think of people that do are just doing what they believe in.  I do the same. You can beleve in what ever you want just as long it doesn't affect me or force it upon me.

Atheists are not all materialistic. However, the only reason anybody would WANT to believe there is no God is because they don't want to be accountable to him.

Surely atheists are the antithesis of materialistic???

I mean, Marxism and other radical social critiques are very much anti-materialism whilst being inherently atheist.

Max Weber, and his 'the protestant ethic' - the groundbreaking work on why capitalism is so successful in the Anglo-phone world, actually identifies the role that Christianity plays in fuelling materialism.

I think you got it the wrong way around.
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i wouldnt have minded telling it as i have come to terms with it now :P But since you withdrew your question...
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I found this on the NS forums. It is interesting and true I believe anyway.

Bad Religion - Atheist Peace

Maybe it’s too late for an intellectual debate,
but a residue of confusion remains.

Changing with the times,
and developmentally tortured minds
are the average citizen's sources of pain.

Tell me what we’re fighting for
I don’t remember anymore,
only temporary reprieve

And the world might cease
if we fail to tame the beast
from the faith that you release
comes an atheist peace.

Atheist peace.

Political forces rent
bitter cold winds of discontent
and the modern age emerged triumphantly.

But now it seems we've stalled
And it’s time to de-evolve
and relive the dark chapters of history

Tell me what we’re fighting for
No progress ever came from war,
only a false sense of increase

and the world won’t wait
for the truth upon a plate
but we’re ready now to feast on an atheist peace.

Atheist peace"
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Athesitica
Apr 22 2006, 02:26 AM
I don't understand why people blindly believe in something they can't see or hear. The only record of a god is a the bible and it is just a book. You don't believe everything you read do you? I am wondering if someone could help me understand.

I have not read all the replies in this thread (6 pages of to big replies for my small Brain).

But I think...

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The only record of a god is a the bible and it is just a book.

That’s not really true, Records of some form of a divine being is thought by many to predate the written word.

The best reason I can find for believing in some form of God is because it’s better to do so than not too. Belief in God means belief in something higher watching over us, belief that this life isn't everything existence has to offer and that there is some order and reason to the world around us. I think that’s a very comforting thought.


I find people often class Religion as evil but I'd judge these people to be Ignorant. It is not the religion that is evil or wrong but it is the misapplication of religion. Look in any major religion you like and you'll find positive ideas of peace etc it is merely the corruption that pollutes all society that has added an evil element to religion. E.G. I am almost certain very few "Islamic" terrorists know anything about the Islamic faith and even fewer have understood anything about it, if they did they would see that we all told we myust be relentless in the Quest to preserve Human life and that’s means can never be justified by ends.

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I will go this far to say that if there is a God that he is doing a poor job


It is true to say that one might expect an omnipotent force to solve the worlds problems but would we really want that? To makes mistakes is to be human. If God forced us into a perfect society we would be no more than enslaved Clones, I’d rather imperfection.
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Athesitica
May 7 2006, 07:03 AM
True Religion - Christ's Peace

Maybe it’s too late for an intellectual debate,
but a residue of confusion remains.

Changing with the times,
and developmentally tortured minds
are the average citizen's sources of pain.

Tell me what we’re fighting for
I don’t remember anymore,
only temporary manmade reprieve

And the world might cease
if we fail to tame the beast
from the propaganda you release
comes Christ's peace.

Christ's peace.

Political forces rent
bitter cold winds of discontent
and the modern age fell into the lie.

But now it seems we've stalled
And it’s time to evolve
and rediscover the meaning of life.

Tell me what we’re finding in the confusion
No progress ever came from self-delusion,
only a false sense of increase

and the world won’t wait
for the truth upon a plate
but we’re ready now to feast on an Christ's peace.

Christ's peace"

I took the liberty of editing the poem, athesitica. It's much better now.
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It is much better now.
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Athesitica
May 7 2006, 07:03 AM
I found this on the NS forums. It is interesting and true I believe anyway.

Bad Religion - Atheist Peace

Maybe it’s too late for an intellectual debate,
but a residue of confusion remains.

Changing with the times,
and developmentally tortured minds
are the average citizen's sources of pain.

Tell me what we’re fighting for
I don’t remember anymore,
only temporary reprieve

And the world might cease
if we fail to tame the beast
from the faith that you release
comes an atheist peace.

Atheist peace.

Political forces rent
bitter cold winds of discontent
and the modern age emerged triumphantly.

But now it seems we've stalled
And it’s time to de-evolve
and relive the dark chapters of history

Tell me what we’re fighting for
No progress ever came from war,
only a false sense of increase

and the world won’t wait
for the truth upon a plate
but we’re ready now to feast on an atheist peace.

Atheist peace"

Do you know who the Author is?
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Jivdom
May 7 2006, 06:24 PM
Athesitica
May 7 2006, 07:03 AM
I found this on the NS forums. It is interesting and true I believe anyway.

Bad Religion - Atheist Peace

Maybe it’s too late for an intellectual debate,
but a residue of confusion remains.

Changing with the times,
and developmentally tortured minds
are the average citizen's sources of pain.

Tell me what we’re fighting for
I don’t remember anymore,
only temporary reprieve

And the world might cease
if we fail to tame the beast
from the faith that you release
comes an atheist peace.

Atheist peace.

Political forces rent
bitter cold winds of discontent
and the modern age emerged triumphantly.

But now it seems we've stalled
And it’s time to de-evolve
and relive the dark chapters of history

Tell me what we’re fighting for
No progress ever came from war,
only a false sense of increase

and the world won’t wait
for the truth upon a plate
but we’re ready now to feast on an atheist peace.

Atheist peace"

Do you know who the Author is?

bad religion are a punk band.

even i know that.
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Well you are clearly very wise...
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