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Was the Treaty of Versailles 1919 too harsh on Ger; many
Topic Started: May 4 2006, 10:08 PM (261 Views)
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I have to right an essay on it for history so i thought i'd ask the region :P

I'll post my personal opinion tomorrow as i am too tired tonight :P

ppl who don't know... google it :P
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Why have i never gotten anything such as that to write <_<

WIll have to post my views tomorrow...
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Remember i am in 14 NC. I only have to write a page as well :P
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Yeah i know however im just stating why was i never given something interesting like that to do...instead i got the boring stuff
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we're moving onto farming next <_<
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May 4 2006, 09:20 PM
we're moving onto farming next <_<

haha! what a random topic, we were doing about the eastern front in ww2, but now we're moving onto the blitz.

are you from the uk, Calc?
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gd old scotland ^_^
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hehe, damn, maybe I'll have to do farming at some point, although after WW1 we moved straight onto Hitler rising to power... this years a bit crap actually, I want to move onto next year and learn about the cold war.
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We're moving to Hitlers rise to power after farming
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i take it we don't have to do about farming then, we must be in the same year at school.

woah, I've managed to take this so off topic. :banana:
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well, i will get back on topic. lol

Heck yes, the Treaty of Versailles was to harsh on Germany. The treaty forced Germany to take the balme for WW1, it made them pay reparations (which are payments), it took a good deal of their land, it limited their army, limited the amount of weapons they had, and it forced them to accept a democratic government. Since they had to pay reparations, it left their economy in ruins. Their money, which I think was the mark, was basically worthless. There was political upheavel and social unrest. Also, Hitler used the Treaty of Versailles as the reason for invading the Rhineland, Czechoslovakia, Austria, Poland......ect. Hence starting WW2.
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May 4 2006, 09:44 PM
, it made them pay reparations (which are payments),

£6,600 million :P

i say it wasnt because of the treaty of Bret Litovska. In some ways that treaty was harsher than Versailles and that Germany did declare publicaly that they would make the allies pay for the war and be harsh on them.

Sure Jesus said forgive and foget but didn't he also say don't do to others what you do not want to be done to yourself?
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May 4 2006, 09:44 PM
Also, Hitler used the Treaty of Versailles as the reason for invading the Rhineland, Czechoslovakia, Austria, Poland......ect. Hence starting WW2.

In the rhineland hitler had 2 hours of ammunition so if the french had attacked him then he would have less credibilty than TRE does now and would be forced to resign, and britain and france gave him part of Czechoslovakia (the sudetenland, the useful part with the factories etc) without even consulting the czechs,.

Austria also agreed to have hitler invade it, it took some bullying from hitler, but eventually they went into the anscluss (i don't have a clue how to spell that) and when hitler marched into austria there was people lining the roads and cheering him on, so technically he didn't inavde austria.
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Versailles was the full cause of WW2 because Poland was formed because of it. ANd how did world war 2 start

GERMANY INVADED POLAND

but still. I think it was not harsh. I will post my further arguement later.
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Up until WWI the loser always suffered hard. However WWI was more devestating than any before so it left Germany with very little. In terms of it gave Hitler his rise to power than yes it was too harsh, but thats looking at it through history's lens. From the time frames perspective it was perfectly legit from European perspectives.
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May 4 2006, 10:05 PM
Up until WWI the loser always suffered hard. However WWI was more devestating than any before so it left Germany with very little. In terms of it gave Hitler his rise to power than yes it was too harsh, but thats looking at it through history's lens. From the time frames perspective it was perfectly legit from European perspectives.

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Despite the treaty of versailles Germany was still large, resourceful country. In 1925 their steel industry was double the size of Britains
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If I am correct which I may or may not be, I believe that The US was sending alot of capital to Germany aorund this time since it was booming itself. Thus germany had a chance of recovering. But I still hink inflation was high. When the US went into depression, germany which was depending on the US fell into one even worse than America's. They would burn paper money for fire because it was cheaper to do so than to buy wood.
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erm...havent learnt that yet :P

still how about that world war one eh?
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Too Harsh Perspective:

I would suggest looking up President Woodrow Wilson's 14 Points. It is what Wilson imagined post WWI Europe.

Not Harsh Perspective:

Just use examples of past wars and how it has always been tough on the loser.
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