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U.S.A Immigration Control
Topic Started: May 23 2006, 10:56 PM (150 Views)
Dalleria	May 23 2006, 10:56 PM Post #1
A Real Black Man Posts: 1,605 Group: Resident Member #129 Joined: October 22, 2005	This is a first for me in this forum,but thoughts anybody?

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The Ruescher Empire	May 24 2006, 11:20 PM Post #21
Buh Posts: 8,274 Group: Resident Member #184 Joined: January 5, 2006	Thats fine, i have no problem with Legal Immigration as that benefits everyone.
Dalleria	May 24 2006, 11:35 PM Post #22
A Real Black Man Posts: 1,605 Group: Resident Member #129 Joined: October 22, 2005	Same here.
Jonewest	May 24 2006, 11:38 PM Post #23
Posts: 6,449 Group: Admin Member #247 Joined: March 6, 2006	Clinton..ha ha..bloody democrats, you know Clinton brought us out of a deficit, right? Of course Mr. Bushy Jr. brought us back to deficit..but hey.."It's for the gud of Amercia."
Lower Bowmania	May 24 2006, 11:58 PM Post #24
Simply ravishing... Posts: 4,705 Group: Resident Member #226 Joined: February 12, 2006 Nation name: IA Finance Political Affiliation: IA Finance Other NS identities: IA Finance	I am entirely in agreement with Dal. First of all, legal immigration is a good thing--it adds cultural enrichment, in many cases increases the quality of life (economically speaking) of the immigrants, increases the work force, increases gov't income derived through taxes...very little downside here imo. BUT, illegal immigration is a new ball game entirely. No money is paid in taxes, yet tax money is spent on gov't programs that the illegals take advantage of--a double whammy so to speak. At the same time, a good portion of the money being paid out to the illegals isn't even being reciruculated into our economy--its being sent back accross the border. With illegals being so underpaid, quality of life is low which gives way to poverty and crime--which in turns feeds right back into the first "double whammy" I mentioned. Also, I don't buy the "no one will do the job" argument. There will always be people who need jobs that will do whatever it takes...and if not, begin programs that allow non-violent criminal offenders to take the jobs. Seriously, not like "slave labor" or anything--if they're non-violent offenders, what's wrong with letting them work (supervised, of course), earn a small yet reasonable wage, all while adding to the productivity of our society?
Dalleria	May 25 2006, 12:01 AM Post #25
A Real Black Man Posts: 1,605 Group: Resident Member #129 Joined: October 22, 2005	In agreement my brother.........
Jonewest	May 25 2006, 03:29 AM Post #26
Posts: 6,449 Group: Admin Member #247 Joined: March 6, 2006	Few criminals will take a crappy job over a job that gets them easy money.
Mendra	May 31 2006, 02:51 AM Post #27
Tries too hard Posts: 123 Group: Resident Member #150 Joined: November 15, 2005	LB- were you talking about prisoners taking those low paying jobs? If so, then i agree with you.
Lower Bowmania	May 31 2006, 02:40 PM Post #28
Simply ravishing... Posts: 4,705 Group: Resident Member #226 Joined: February 12, 2006 Nation name: IA Finance Political Affiliation: IA Finance Other NS identities: IA Finance	Yes, Mendra...I meant that for the non-violent criminals to fill job vacancies. And JW, I don't purport to know the intimacies of the US justice and penal system, but I have a great deal of family that works in law enforcement, corrections and in the courts...going on what I hear from them (and again...I'm not claiming that their experiences are necessarily indicative of the entire nation), many non-violents would love a chance to get our of their cells and out of the physical confines of prison/jail for 8 hours a day and earn income for when they are released (as opposed to sweat-shop like conditions for well less than minimum wage as they received doing "work" within the facility itself)
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