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What was your last read?; referring to books
Topic Started: May 29 2006, 11:41 AM (336 Views)
Jivdom
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Dan Browns work may seem mediocre to those who do not care to read with an open mind to new techniques However what they miss is that Brown's writing is original, it is not that he has failed to exceed the "mediocre" grade but is instead that he has not gone along with normal literary precedents. In most pieces of literature, the quality of the work is judged on aspects like character development and detail in description however Dan Brown has ignored this and instead has tilted his work towards plot depth. Had Brown used as much description and had gone through enough development to have reached the expected levels and standards the book would be too long, the description would break up the plot to such an extent that what Brown is actually trying to do, his unique method of writing, would be diluted to a great extent. It almost seems like his work is an early draft of a final piece of work but it is that quality that separates him from the crowd. It is this that allows him to fit in the great novel into a concise and coherent masterpiece.
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I agree, Jiv.

I know I didn't say it in my earlier defense of Brown, but I did enjoy the book as an enjoyable work of plot-driven fiction. I also agree with whoever (too lazy atm to look back and see who) said that Angels and Demons was a better book.
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Jivdom
May 31 2006, 02:05 PM
it is not that he has failed to exceed the "mediocre" grade but is instead that he has not gone along with normal literary precedents. In most pieces of literature, the quality of the work is judged on aspects like character development and detail in description however Dan Brown has ignored this and instead has tilted his work towards plot depth.

Well said.
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May 31 2006, 01:54 PM
Indeed, view his popularity as a reflection of our world.

So our modern culture wants a complex plot told to them using over-simplified and altogether stark writing? I'm not sure whether or not I find that depressing. I'm leaning towards "yes".

(And I realize I probably sound very arrogant; but, no novel to me is complete without a certain je ne sais quoi in the syntax, grammar, and certain descriptive elements; I just can't get into it when it feels too simple.)

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Right now I'm on "The Battle of Corrin" making my way through the Dune novels (reading them in chronological order, not order of publication, so I guess that puts me on book 3 of about 4524).

Don't tell any hardcore Dune fans. They'll give you an hour long, point by point explanation of why Brian Herbert is Satan Incarnate. To be honest, Kevin J. Anderson's contributions make the prequels perfectly enjoyable stories (though not quite as good as Frank's works).
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May 31 2006, 01:54 PM
Indeed, view his popularity as a reflection of our world.

So our modern culture wants a complex plot told to them using over-simplified and altogether stark writing? I'm not sure whether or not I find that depressing. I'm leaning towards "yes".

(And I realize I probably sound very arrogant; but, no novel to me is complete without a certain je ne sais quoi in the syntax, grammar, and certain descriptive elements; I just can't get into it when it feels too simple.)

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Right now I'm on "The Battle of Corrin" making my way through the Dune novels (reading them in chronological order, not order of publication, so I guess that puts me on book 3 of about 4524).

Don't tell any hardcore Dune fans. They'll give you an hour long, point by point explanation of why Brian Herbert is Satan Incarnate. To be honest, Kevin J. Anderson's contributions make the prequels perfectly enjoyable stories (though not quite as good as Frank's works).

But the "over-simplified" writing stlye is a device! Think about in relation to the plot. The plot line itself is eratic, it moves very fast the quick changes in circumstances would leave the characters, I am sure, more than alittle confusion - the crude language, in a sense, conveys this. The simple language shows us that the main character is not entirely comprehending the situation due to the pace of it all.
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In my opinion, Dan Brown made a deal with the devil. His books would become enormously popular, but in return he would never end a chapter without a cliffhanger.

Right now I'm reading Bob Dole's memoir, One Soldier's Story.
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Those who think that giving it all to a good plot, thus making you popular, or I should say commercial, should read John Fowles's The Magus.
I refuse to consider someone who becomes popular and achieves a best seller by writing a book in which he narrates a detective story based on his (?) research concerning a subject that is most likely to captivate readers' attention, when that is actually the only thing he does. No character depth, no great descriptive language, no personal thoughts, philosophies, experiences, no moral teachings, etc. Then again, these are things that do not interest modern civilisation anyway, today's civilisation accustomed to the view of violence, evil, conspiracies, war. We live in an era that interest in literature, along with other parts of art, faces a major decline after all.
Dan Brown is actually brilliant. He achieved in making a lot of money taking advantage of the public's unconscious attraction to the superficial glance of the unknown. Hail Dan Brown.

I actually have nothing against him. But I shudder to think how some things are now perceived as exceptional examples/models.
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