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| Topic Started: Aug 9 2006, 08:23 PM (170 Views) | |
| U-ropa | Aug 9 2006, 08:23 PM Post #1 |
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Thought I would share something with you that happened to me this morning. I had to get to work at 9am on the dot due to having a meeting etc etc and so was exceptionally flustered when i woke up late and discovered i had 10 minutes to shower/dress/eat and catch my train into Charing Cross (London). Having got to the train station with about 2 minutes to spare, there was a massive queue for tickets and the train after mine would have got me into work by 9.30 which was unacceptable,.so, seeing that one of the ticket barriers was open, I ran through with a number of other people and boarded the train just as it was about to leave. Now at this point, I was ticketless and promptly walked the length of the train to find a conductor to sell me a ticket. After a frustrating search, in which no conductor could be found i reconciled myself to explaining my situation to a guard at Charing Cross, and hopefully being able to purchase a ticket and get on my way to work. After arriving at aforementioned station, i presented myself at the ticket barriers and explained my situation to an understanding guard who directed me to a small office from which to buy a ticket. Whilst in the queue, i saw a number of people who were on my train who were clearly in the same situation as me. Now, this may sound trivial but the two people directly before and behind me were both black, whilst i was wearing a suit/shirt/tie etc etc We were then approached by a black ticket inspector who approached the black women in front of me and enquired why she didnt have a ticket. She voiced a position near synonymous with mine and was allowed to proceed to the desk to buy a ticket. I was then asked why i didnt have a ticket, and i explained, but this time he took me to one side and gave me a £30 fine! Whatsmore, he seemed to take serious pleasure in doing it...he asked me whether i was in a rush, and i affirmed his question and told him that i had an important meeting etc etc BUT this only made him go slower. When i went to leave, i turned back, and the inspector went back to the queue and pulled out a white girl and proceeded to go through the same routine as he had done with me...one has to note that there was two black people in front of this girl whom he completely ignored. Was i the victim of racial discrimination? I know that i should have had a ticket, and in that sense i don't mind paying the fine. What has really p.issed me off is the seemingly racial basis from which the inspector choose who was fined and who wasnt. I'm contemplating complaining, as i've always based a large part of my morality on being inherently anti-racist, and being white and middle class i've never experienced it before, until now. I just don’t want to be an apologist for black on white racism on the basis that black people unfortunately suffer disproportionately more racism then white people doe. |
 
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| Old Zertaxia | Aug 9 2006, 08:40 PM Post #2 |
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If I were you, I would complain....who says racism is only a one way street? |
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| Love and Honour | Aug 9 2006, 08:47 PM Post #3 |
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That is an interesting dilemma and my view (as is most I'm sure) is that anyone can be a victim of racism. It reads to me that you have and I would write the letter. On the Arc forum there is a post form a guy in Germany suffering Racism (of a violent nature) from (his word is Muslim) non German youths. In his area ethnic Germans are a minority. His point was that the powers in Germany are too scared that they would be called racist themselves if they acted. My view is that is a cop out and racism no matter where it comes from is an evil that must be dealt with harshly. Write the Letter and keep us posted. |
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| Jivdom | Aug 9 2006, 08:56 PM Post #4 |
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Personally I would complain without a doubt. It shouldn't happen - simple as that. |
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| Northern Chittowa | Aug 9 2006, 10:06 PM Post #5 |
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Oh no, you couldnt have been as you are not black... :rolleyes: Anyway, its the way of the world, esp. in the UK just now and it does annoy the hell out of me. The one which really got me annoyed however was the time, in Birmingham, where they wanted to rename Christmas Winter fest so as to not offend other cultures! They have come over to live in this country, a primarily Christian Country, so they should learn to deal with the way we live...we shouldnt have to change our way of life to suit them... |
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| Jonewest | Aug 9 2006, 10:32 PM Post #6 |
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Of course you should, you're suppose to be hospitable :rolleyes: |
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| Northern Chittowa | Aug 9 2006, 10:43 PM Post #7 |
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Hospitality only goes so far...
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| Love and Honour | Aug 9 2006, 10:44 PM Post #8 |
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to suit them Mmm Who do you mean by them? Other Cultures? Cultures who were born and lived all their life in Britain? Who should change their life to suit you perhaps? (edit = I know you did not say that but it is how I read it) |
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| Northern Chittowa | Aug 9 2006, 10:50 PM Post #9 |
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You know what i meant...If they wish to live in this country, or any country in fact, then they should be ready to put up and learn to live with our way of life, as we do with thiers... One culture should not be forced to change a part of their life in case it offends another... |
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| Love and Honour | Aug 9 2006, 10:57 PM Post #10 |
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I disagree While I accept Christmas is not a good example when cultures mix it is always necessary for parts of each culture to be stopped or at least toned down. Would you like it Islamic law was the law of the land for the Muslims ....I bet not because the Law of the Land should be the same for all. But the Muslims in Britain (mostly 2nd and 3rd generation) give up this part of there culture for the greater good. It is the same with many things from all cultures and with societies becoming a melting pot it is the new order and I suggest people get used to it. |
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| Northern Chittowa | Aug 9 2006, 11:06 PM Post #11 |
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I can see where your coming from and i do agree, however my grievences are not about the more extreme practises of each Culture, my grievence stems from the small things such as renaming important festivals, banning the flying of the national flag from government buildings and so on and so forth. We all have to make sacrifices for the better, however people should not be forced to stop, say being patriotic just in case it may offend some people... Like i said further up as well, hospitiality can only go so far... This goes into my hate of Political Correctness as well really... |
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| Love and Honour | Aug 9 2006, 11:19 PM Post #12 |
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As I said Christmas is a bad example. On the Flag ... In Norther Ireland you have two traditions each showing allegiance to a different Flag. Should the Union Jack be flown there. I maintain no as to do so is to divorce the loyalty of the other tradition from the organs of the civil Government.. Which (and not just because of the flag) is exactly what happened. In this case the Flag is part of the majority culture that has to change but not to be replaced with the tricolour (which btw is a flag representing both traditions in its colours) but by one that is neutral in demeanour. |
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| Jonewest | Aug 9 2006, 11:29 PM Post #13 |
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Oh sush old man, stop trying to satisify everyone. If they wanted to change the country they should have came when everyone else did. Lazy good-fer-nuthins' :rolleyes: |
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| Jivdom | Aug 9 2006, 11:33 PM Post #14 |
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I think I am in agreement with NC here. I believe if someone chooses to live in a country they are implicitly saying they want to be a part of the culture of that country. Whilst I think that Imigrants + overseas students and even those on hoilday should bring bits of their culture over they should for the main part adapt to Britain. Britain should have One culture - British culture which in my mind is a mixture of all those who inhabit it whether they be new to the nation or anglo-saxon. |
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| Love and Honour | Aug 9 2006, 11:35 PM Post #15 |
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Constructive as ever JW. As least your consistent :rolleyes: |
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| Jonewest | Aug 9 2006, 11:36 PM Post #16 |
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Just doing my dooty 
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| Dipes | Aug 9 2006, 11:57 PM Post #17 |
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hehe....typical student coming out here...but my first reaction was "why the hell were you looking for a conductor to pay for the train?!!?" as for the central point, if the guy did only pull white people up, and ignored black people with the same situation, then yes, you do have a case for racial discrimination. however proving it is another thing. |
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| Jivdom | Aug 10 2006, 12:01 AM Post #18 |
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Damn students bringing down the country... Anywho, If Uropa complains and the next time something simliar happens that guy/girl complains and so forth then a case begins to build. no? |
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| Northern Chittowa | Aug 10 2006, 12:07 AM Post #19 |
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But you are prob called racsit by complaining against them...Thats the common fear anyway i feel, thats why people dont often report it. |
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| Jivdom | Aug 10 2006, 12:27 AM Post #20 |
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Not reporting for the soul reason it was a black guy were performed the racist actions in place of a white guy is an act of racism itself... |
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