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Pinochet dies after heart attack; Can't say I'll lose sleep!
Topic Started: Dec 11 2006, 10:30 AM (99 Views)
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http://www.rte.ie/news/2006/1210/pinocheta.html

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Pinochet dies after heart attack

10 December 2006
Augusto Pinochet, who ruled Chile from 1973 tp 1990, has died a week after suffering a heart attack. He was 91.

General Pinochet grabbed power in a coup and went on to become the best known of the South American dictators of the 1970s and 1980s.

He spent his old age fighting human rights, fraud and corruption charges.

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Under his regime more than 3,000 people died in political violence, many at the hands of repressive secret police.

He was accused of dozens of human rights violations but a lengthy effort to bring him to trial in Chile failed as his defence lawyers successfully argued that he was too ill to face charges.

Despite Mr Pinochet's human rights record, many Chileans loved him and said he saved Chile from Marxism.

But even many loyal supporters abandoned him after it came out in 2004 that he had stashed some $27m in secret off-shore bank accounts that were under investigation at the time of his death.
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1 Commie down, 1 billion to go.
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Who is the commie?
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Says one who judges my compassion towards animals....

Pfft.
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Verusea, I do hope you are not calling Gen Pinochet a Commie.

As far as I am concerned, Pinochet killed a bunch of commies and helped us in the Falklands, certainly not the worst dictator ever.
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Dec 11 2006, 02:35 PM
Says one who judges my compassion towards animals....

Pfft.

I said I won't lose sleep not that I would of harmed him in any way. Jail is where he should of been...
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As far as I am concerned, Pinochet killed a bunch of commies and helped us in the Falklands, certainly not the worst dictator ever.
Hmm yes reminds me of another war crime...
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What in the Falklands? I don't recall any war crimes in the Falklands.

Regardless I don't care, in case you hadn't noticed I am not a humanist. As someone once said "In war there are no rules" so that the Belgrano (which I presume you are refering to here) was leaving the combat area is of no issue to me. The fact that it hadn't left the combat area makes it even les of an issue.
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That is probably why you excuse another war criminal of his crimes then, at least thats clear. ;)
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Im of the same view as Dup i think here...It was a tactical decision to sink the Belgrano, and im sure that if the Argies had the chance to do it to one of our ships they would have done the same. While i am sorry for the loss of lives on that ship, it was war and in war you expect deaths. If we didnt sink it at that time, who ould say how it could have changed the war down there.
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That is probably why you excuse another war criminal of his crimes then


I am not making excuses, I am saying I don't care. If he thought that he needed to put down a Marxist rebelion who am I to complain. Commies havn't exactly got the best record in the world have they.

Oh and seeing as Chille was not at war I don't see how the 3000 deaths are war crimes.

And with the Belgrano, it may have been leaving the CZ, but when it was attacked it was still officialy in the CZ and therefor sinking it was still legaly alowed under the 'rules of war'
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Pinochet was a Commie. He ruled like one, in the sense he oppressed his people. I call him "Stalin of the West."
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Dec 11 2006, 10:43 PM
Pinochet was a Commie. He ruled like one, in the sense he oppressed his people. I call him "Stalin of the West."

I call you an uninformed idiot...
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And with the Belgrano, it may have been leaving the CZ, but when it was attacked it was still officialy in the CZ and therefor sinking it was still legaly alowed under the 'rules of war'


Not really truthful now was that ;)

http://www.channel4.com/history/microsites...b/belgrano.html

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Thatcher, who always deferred to the military professionals, felt that she had no alternative: she authorised the change in TF 324's rules of engagement. After some delay, during which Conqueror – then 36 nautical miles (58 kilometres) outside the total exclusion zone – tried to make sense of the conflicting signals, the cruiser was torpedoed and the Argentinian surface navy took refuge behind Argentina's 12-mile limit.
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However, during war, under international law, the heading of a belligerent naval vessel has no bearing on its status and the captain of the Belgrano, Hector Bonzo, has testified that the attack was legitimate.


As I said, perfectly legal. CZs and Total Exclusion zones are different.
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Verusea you are a fucking idiot.

The term you are looking for is 'dictator'.


Pinochet not only put down a democratically elected communist leader but he also killed or jailed many communists as well as anybody that held a different view then him.

You are insulting him by calling him a communist. You fucking idiot.




You deserve the brick of silence. But unfortunately I can't send a brick over the internet.
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execpt under the rules of engagement as set out by the British Government....

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Hey. Sorry about my misinformed remark. Pinochet wasnt a Commie. I thought he was, but i was thinking of Allenze, that other guy.
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