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The event that POed Old Zertaxia this week....
Topic Started: Dec 11 2006, 06:11 PM (953 Views)
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Christmas Tree is all I have to say.

I mean I could really care less...If I see a christmas tree at a airport I don't really care, because the idea of christmas is a great thing which is what that tree represents, but what christmas has become is something christians should be ashamed of.
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Dec 11 2006, 08:42 PM
but what christmas has become is something christians should be ashamed of.

Some people still remember the true meaning of Christmas. What is really so bad about making other people happy?
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Making people happy by buying hundred if not thousands of gifts is not the real meanin xmas. The real meaning of xmas is to give of your heart and soul and give hope to others.
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Dec 11 2006, 08:54 PM
Making people happy by buying hundred if not thousands of gifts is not the real meanin xmas. The real meaning of xmas is to give of your heart and soul and give hope to others.

If some people choose to show their love through giving, who are you to judge?

Now, of course, some people do take it over board, but I don't think that justifies dismissing the whole holiday...
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Also if you such a promoter of Free Speech then why don't you promote the free speech of the minority?


Because surely it is every person's right, under freedom of speech, to say "no I will not put up a menora". How is forcing someone to 'say' something they clearly don't want to Freedom of Speech?

It is your right to put up a menora, it is the airport's right not to.
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Old Zertaxia
Dec 11 2006, 08:25 PM
Athesitica
Dec 11 2006, 08:54 PM
Making people happy by buying hundred if not thousands of gifts is not the real meanin xmas. The real meaning of xmas is to give of your heart and soul and give hope to others.

If some people choose to show their love through giving, who are you to judge?

Now, of course, some people do take it over board, but I don't think that justifies dismissing the whole holiday...

Old Z I will tell you who I am to judge. I am an american citizen. We judge people everyday including yourself. Its nessceray part of life.
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Dec 11 2006, 09:33 PM
It is your right to put up a menora, it is the airport's right not to.

The airport (I believe) is publicly owned, no?

Ath, thats a poor attitude. If there were less people like you in the world, thinking their opinion was the only truth and trying to enforce it on other people, the world would be a better place.

And before you accuse Christians of such behavior, good Christians are supposed to encourage others to join the fold, not force.

Not like that man forced the airport to assume an air of atheism and show no joy or goodwill during the holidays...
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Dec 11 2006, 10:05 PM


Everyone is happy when no one else is.

Who is isn't happy? You? I know many people of many different faiths and everything that is Christmas doesn't bother them at all. You are right, the minority and majority should have a voice, but who are you to mute my voice to speak your own? If I want to put a Christmas tree in my office at work I am freely willed to, you or no one else has the right to tell me not to put it there. Furthermore, why should my fellow Christians not be able to demonstrate their faith in public? There seems to be no problem in this country to advertise girls with their boobs hanging out their dress in huge tele-a-trons but if there so much as glimpses a Merry Christmas slogan with a Christmas tree on it someone finds offense of it. Is Atheism in itself not a religion? And do atheist-like minds not run this business world? So why am I know allowed to outspeak against the moral disdain atheist advertisements bring?

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Dec 11 2006, 11:42 PM
.noob

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BAHAHAHAHA!!
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Atheism is not a religion. Not that I am one, I'm just correcting you.
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Old Zertaxia
Dec 11 2006, 10:19 PM
Ath, you treat Christians like the Romans did. Bet you wouldn't mind celebrating whatever holidays atheists celebrate by throwing some of the faithful to some lions?


In more serious issues:

1. This country is mostly Christian. Those who aren't Christian should just deal with it and not attack it. Its not hurting you. Get over it.

2. People who didn't choose to be born here can choose to walk away. I mean, even if you don't have money, Canada and Mexico don't have the strictest of immigration policies...

3. The citizens of America are too sue-happy. That man who complained didn't only complain: he complained and threatened. That makes him wrong.

4. While I know this isn't going to be a popular arguement, the "christmas" tree is just an evergreen tree with decorations. Nothing, besides its name, is overtly Christian. I mean, look at the history. It was a pagan practice far before Christians started using them.

5. The airport couldn't have put a menorah in without putting up a crucifix and (not meaning to be offensive, I just don't what different cultures would want/use) whatever the symbol for Kwanza is and I'm sure Muslims would feel left out and even though they don't have a holiday at this time (that I'm aware of, I could be perfectly wrong), they'd want something, and the list would never end. The airport put up 'christmas' trees because they wanted to be able to express holiday cheer without being overtly religious in any manner.

6. Just another part of liberal America's attack on Christmas and Christian values. And I'm not some conspiracy nutter. American schools aren't allowed to have "Christmas Break" or even "Winter Holidays"....schools and colleges have to have "Winter Breaks" because in the liberal belief system, saying "Christmas" is a sin...


Just my opinon....

I think I should entitle my upcoming (if ever existent) article in the paper the same as the title of this topic....

The xmas tree was put back up. Happy?

A true victory for Christian values!

Huzzah! Huzzah! Hallelujah!

1. I live in this country and I'm not!

2. Are you implying that this country should always be exclusively Christian? Because what I just read was that religious minorities should just leave. Let alone putting up a menorah isn't really an attack on Christian values, and the only two religions who really put things up on the holidays are Christianity and Judaism. Most people who celebrate Kwanzaa also celebrate Christmas, and Islam, Hinduism, and Buddhism (let alone Atheism lol) don't have real symbols that can be displayed.

3. I agree.

4. A symbol is created by the people who live in the present.

5. When I was in school I had teachers who tried to convert me to Christianity and preached about Jesus in the classroom.

Maybe the so-called "attack on Christian values" is meant to prevent things like this from happening?
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5. When I was in school I had teachers who tried to convert me to Christianity and preached about Jesus in the classroom.


I'm shocked!! :blink: That is just disgraceful! :angry: The teacher in question should be sacked! :angry:
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Let alone putting up a menorah isn't really an attack on Christian values,


It could easily be interpreted as such...

Christmas is the celebration of the birth of Jesus. Jews betrayed Jesus, how tastefull is it to put up the symbol of one religion next to the symbol of another that betrayed and killed the prophet of the other?
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1. I live in this country and I'm not!

2. Are you implying that this country should always be exclusively Christian? Because what I just read was that religious minorities should just leave. Let alone putting up a menorah isn't really an attack on Christian values, and the only two religions who really put things up on the holidays are Christianity and Judaism. Most people who celebrate Kwanzaa also celebrate Christmas, and Islam, Hinduism, and Buddhism (let alone Atheism lol) don't have real symbols that can be displayed.

3. I agree.

4. A symbol is created by the people who live in the present.

5. When I was in school I had teachers who tried to convert me to Christianity and preached about Jesus in the classroom.

Maybe the so-called "attack on Christian values" is meant to prevent things like this from happening?

Yes, I am happy.

1. Please read. I said most. Not all. Are you implying that because you're not Christian, that obviously means they're not a majority?

2. Again, please read. Where did I mention anything in this point about religion or religious minorities? Where did I say that the country should be exclusively anything? I said, in response to someone else's claim that people have no choice where they live and can't "get over" the fact that this country is mostly Christian, that people have the power to move. Please read. Can you?

3. Symbols are not created exclusively by the present. That's just silly.

4. I dunno where you went to school or when, but that doesn't happen in PUBLIC schools anymore. We can't even learn about the reason why the Puritans had differences with the Anglican Church. Teachers are afraid to say "God" and "religion" and "Christianity"....


lol....if you think that Christianity is in danger of imposing itself on the American public, you really are blind....

quite the opposite, deary....
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Dec 12 2006, 03:35 PM
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5. When I was in school I had teachers who tried to convert me to Christianity and preached about Jesus in the classroom.


I'm shocked!! :blink: That is just disgraceful! :angry: The teacher in question should be sacked! :angry:

You're wrong as usual, there should be more teachers like that, it teaches the kids how to either lead a better life (by becoming Christian) or how to resist other influences, such as advertising.

It doesn't really do any harm to anyone, it's just commies like yourself who enjoy annoying people.
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Let alone putting up a menorah isn't really an attack on Christian values,


It could easily be interpreted as such...

Christmas is the celebration of the birth of Jesus. Jews betrayed Jesus, how tastefull is it to put up the symbol of one religion next to the symbol of another that betrayed and killed the prophet of the other?

Only morons would see it as such.
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Dec 12 2006, 06:42 PM
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Let alone putting up a menorah isn't really an attack on Christian values,


It could easily be interpreted as such...

Christmas is the celebration of the birth of Jesus. Jews betrayed Jesus, how tastefull is it to put up the symbol of one religion next to the symbol of another that betrayed and killed the prophet of the other?

Only morons would see it as such.

Therefore you should see it as such...
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Dec 12 2006, 05:34 PM
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5. When I was in school I had teachers who tried to convert me to Christianity and preached about Jesus in the classroom.


I'm shocked!! :blink: That is just disgraceful! :angry: The teacher in question should be sacked! :angry:

You're wrong as usual, there should be more teachers like that, it teaches the kids how to either lead a better life (by becoming Christian) or how to resist other influences, such as advertising.

It doesn't really do any harm to anyone, it's just commies like yourself who enjoy annoying people.

So, you twat, it is acceptable to preach to kids in school a different religion that their parents and against the wishes of their parents in the PI world?
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Dec 12 2006, 05:34 PM
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5. When I was in school I had teachers who tried to convert me to Christianity and preached about Jesus in the classroom.


I'm shocked!! :blink: That is just disgraceful! :angry: The teacher in question should be sacked! :angry:

You're wrong as usual, there should be more teachers like that, it teaches the kids how to either lead a better life (by becoming Christian) or how to resist other influences, such as advertising.

It doesn't really do any harm to anyone, it's just commies like yourself who enjoy annoying people.

So, you twat, it is acceptable to preach to kids in school a different religion that their parents and against the wishes of their parents in the PI world?

Absolutely, it teaches them to be strong, one of the main traits of any good, self-respecting man.

Also, please refrain from calling me a twat in the future.
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