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The event that POed Old Zertaxia this week....
Topic Started: Dec 11 2006, 06:11 PM (952 Views)
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Well therefore he should call you a communist dickhead and a wanker then.
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Religion and religious teachings in schools in an entirely different matter.
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VincentDantes
Dec 12 2006, 12:23 PM
Atheism is not a religion. Not that I am one, I'm just correcting you.

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re·li·gion (rĭ-lĭj'ən) pronunciation
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        1. Belief in and reverence for a supernatural power or powers regarded as creator and governor of the universe.
        2. A personal or institutionalized system grounded in such belief and worship.
  2. The life or condition of a person in a religious order.
  3. A set of beliefs, values, and practices based on the teachings of a spiritual leader.
  4. A cause, principle, or activity pursued with zeal or conscientious devotion.

I would say that number 4 refers to the religion I was talking about =).
Atheistica is quite zealous and devoted to bringing his atheists beliefs upon the rest of the world, so that in itself makes him a believer in the religion of atheism.
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Old Z might be the most reasonable out of you three. Which is sad.

PI: Work on your come backs kid. My dead grandmother could do a better job and let me restate this....she's DEAD.

JW: I don't force my beliefs on anyone and nor should anyone force theirs on myself, which is the christians favorite hobby. Where in evangilsm if you don't believe in Christ you go to hell, no ifs or buts. Now I admit there are a few atheists that are like that but it is a small and I mean small minority. All groups of people have their extremists.
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Athesitica
Dec 12 2006, 04:09 PM
I don't force my beliefs on anyone

Thats a joke right?


And, Ath, like any belief system, Christianity has rules. If you don't believe in Christ, you go to hell. Thats just one of the rules. It wasn't made up by Christians to force you to be Christian. Its just the way the belief system works.

And evangelism is part of being a good Christian, though I'm sure we can all agree a few take it too far....
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I don't force my beliefs on anyone and nor should anyone force theirs on myself, which is the christians favorite hobby.


I am a christian and have NEVER tried to force someone to become a christian, or even tried to convince them. Stop generalising you moronic cunt.
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Athesitica
Dec 12 2006, 09:09 PM
PI: Work on your come backs kid. My dead grandmother could do a better job and let me restate this....she's DEAD.

You don't have to repeat the same thing twice in one sentence. I can read, which is probably a skill which eluded you until you were about 12.
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Old Zertaxia
Dec 12 2006, 03:17 PM
Athesitica
Dec 12 2006, 04:09 PM
I don't force my beliefs on anyone

Thats a joke right?


And, Ath, like any belief system, Christianity has rules. If you don't believe in Christ, you go to hell. Thats just one of the rules. I wasn't made up by Christians to force you to be Christian. Its just the way the belief system works.

And evangelism is part of being a good Christian, though I'm sure we can all agree a few take it too far....

Tell me one time I said I'm right and your wrong?

Also Dupitable christians have a whole history of force converting people. Africans and Native Americans to cite a few.
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Notable word there, history. Not now. Sure you ocasionaly get a couple in the town center. But the majority of christians will not try to convert you.

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Maybe got them to stray from their faith but not killing them.
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Dupitable
Dec 12 2006, 09:50 PM
Notable word there, history. Not now. Sure you ocasionaly get a couple in the town center. But the majority of christians will not try to convert you.

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Maybe got them to stray from their faith but not killing them.

Hehe, ever been to Worcester, there's always someone there on Saturdays reading from the Bible and trying to convert people.

The funniest time ever was when he started ranting on about the liberal media to some chav girl and she was just standing there saying things like "yeah but the media tells us stuff, dunnit?".

I wasn't sure who to feel more embarrassed for...
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Is that person hasing after you with a burniong torch and a sword telling you if you don't turn to christianity then you will be burnt at the stake? Probably not. Is he threatening to bring your cities down in hails of rockets if you don't convert to christianity? Unlikely. Is he standing up and wiping out himself and the top floor of the number 32 bus because they are not belivers? I doubt it. Therefor he is not really forcing you to become a christian is he.
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Athesitica
Dec 12 2006, 04:47 PM
Old Zertaxia
Dec 12 2006, 03:17 PM
Athesitica
Dec 12 2006, 04:09 PM
I don't force my beliefs on anyone

Thats a joke right?


And, Ath, like any belief system, Christianity has rules. If you don't believe in Christ, you go to hell. Thats just one of the rules. I wasn't made up by Christians to force you to be Christian. Its just the way the belief system works.

And evangelism is part of being a good Christian, though I'm sure we can all agree a few take it too far....

Tell me one time I said I'm right and your wrong?

Also Dupitable christians have a whole history of force converting people. Africans and Native Americans to cite a few.

Dupitable has pointed out your little contradiction there, Ath.

Christianity's aim is to convert as many people as it can, but it is not Christian doctrine to force people to convert.

So, at least we're truthful about our aims....unlike you.....



And I didn't imply you said you were right. You were attacking some basics tenets of Christianity, and I was explaining to you how they are merely integral parts of Christianity, and not tools or weapons or things that we make up just to scare non-Christians....

Yeesh...
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Does anyone feel that most proclaimed christians are truely following in Christ's way? I'm pretty sure Christ wouldn't be spending his time in the mall during christmas to buy people presents...or would he old z? I tell you I doubt that he would.
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P.I. you are a dumb fuck. Children nature isn't to question and fight what they are taught. Children are generally very impressionable, [from small children to pre-teens and some teens], teachings of any religion in an attempt to convert the child are wrong and won't teach them 'how to resist'.

Watch Jesus Camp if you want proof of how impressionable children can be. Children don't even fully understand the concept of god and religion.


Religion is taught in churches and should stay that way. The whole point of church is for a place for people to meet and learn about religion. Not schools.

And if you are one of those bible thumpers that believe religion should be taught in school. And you view atheism and theory of evolution as a religion that is being taught in schools [apart from the fact thats stupid], you should home school your children or send em to a church.



Once again my argument may sound like I'm an atheist but I'm not, I just find 'religion pushers' disgusting. They are often people who through a thick layer of self-told lies and deceit are really very insecure in their religion and only act.

To be christian is to be persecuted for it, without fighting back.
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Dec 12 2006, 07:38 PM
Does anyone feel that most proclaimed christians are truely following in Christ's way? I'm pretty sure Christ wouldn't be spending his time in the mall during christmas to buy people presents...or would he old z? I tell you I doubt that he would.

He would if it was a person's chosen way of showing love and affection for their fellow human beings.

You can't get over the materialism and I feel bad for you because of that. You are a souless husk of a human being, and I pity you.

I really don't understand how you can excuse everyone except Christians for imperfections....
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Old Zertaxia
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Athesitica
Dec 12 2006, 07:38 PM
Does anyone feel that most proclaimed christians are truely following in Christ's way? I'm pretty sure Christ wouldn't be spending his time in the mall during christmas to buy people presents...or would he old z? I tell you I doubt that he would.

He would if it was a person's chosen way of showing love and affection for their fellow human beings.

You can't get over the materialism and I feel bad for you because of that. You are a souless husk of a human being, and I pity you.

I really don't understand how you can excuse everyone except Christians for imperfections....

Christianity is suppose to be about following Jesus's teachings correct? The last thing Jesus was about was materialism.

I don't excuse christian imperfections because a lot of them claim their religion is perfect while they themselves don't follow it.

Like I said Amish probably the best christians ever and they aren't perfect but atleast they try to follow Jesus' teachings.
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Yet another ignorant comment. Christianity is about interpretation. The Ahmish just interpret the bible differently to other Christians, it doesnt nessacerily make them more devout than any other christians.
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Athesitica
Dec 12 2006, 08:19 PM
Christianity is suppose to be about following Jesus's teachings correct? The last thing Jesus was about was materialism.

I don't excuse christian imperfections because a lot of them claim their religion is perfect while they themselves don't follow it.

Like I said Amish probably the best christians ever and they aren't perfect but atleast they try to follow Jesus' teachings.

Do you know what you call someone who holds people to higher standards than themselves, Ath?

You call them big, fat, fucking hypocrites. Thats what you are.


I really can't see how you, one who claims there is no god, judges the faith and orthodoxy or whatever one would call it. Or even to judge which sect of Christians is the most "Christ-like".....:rolleyes:
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You must be talking about christians Old Z Last time I checked they had higher morals then they have for themselves. Like good ol' Ted Haggerd. He himself was gay while expected others not to be. I'm not even going to go to Hitler Jew example.

Also Dup if its open to interpetation then I or anyone else make the bible seem like however I want it to sound...I don't think thats what I authors intended or a god if you believe in a deity.
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