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The European Counterweight
Topic Started: Dec 22 2006, 04:43 AM (142 Views)
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I came across this article from a religious site and must say I found it (except the last section, How Will It All Come Together?, when Brucie Babe goes off the deep end) fairly accurate in how I look at the US and so I suppose accurate in how they look at us.

The European Counterweight

Part 1: A Leaderless Superpower

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Part 2: Will a Strongman Fill the Void?
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VincentDantes
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Actually from the look of the current political climate which I keep referring to, i promise i will write a whole thread on it. China and India are the next arising superpowers. U.S. has taken many steps because they feel threatened since they have grown quite comfy in their seat on top of the world.

But EU might arise as a different kind of superpower as well.
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Children see the world as a simple place. Apparently so do adults... The very idea of a super power is really quite laughable. If a super power really did exist then perhaps Vietnam would not have stuck two fingers up towards America. Perhaps Eqypt would not have given the Brits the old heave-ho and perhaps the afghanies would not have told the Soviets where they can stick their comunism.... Some nations may be more or less powerful than others but, my dear children, super powers are a fallacy that amounts to little more than creative inertia.
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Russia will also become a super-power again in the near future. That is if it can regain the work ethic that it lost under Stalin and a few entrepreneurs move in (or actually stay there for that matter). It has massive amounts of natural resources and controls the gas supply to Europe. If it's people will get off their backside and stop expecting the government to supply everything for them, like the commies did for them, they will improve their quality of life and increase their power. I just hope, for their sake, that they regain their work ethic. I am also thinking of either moving there when I have done a degree to be one of those new entrepreneurs, or investing in one of their companies.
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Uropa
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Dec 22 2006, 05:36 PM
Russia will also become a super-power again in the near future. That is if it can regain the work ethic that it lost under Stalin and a few entrepreneurs move in (or actually stay there for that matter). It has massive amounts of natural resources and controls the gas supply to Europe. If it's people will get off their backside and stop expecting the government to supply everything for them, like the commies did for them, they will improve their quality of life and increase their power. I just hope, for their sake, that they regain their work ethic. I am also thinking of either moving there when I have done a degree to be one of those new entrepreneurs, or investing in one of their companies.

Three words - 'Development as Freedom'

Read it.

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Uropa
Dec 22 2006, 06:37 PM
Pidgeon Island
Dec 22 2006, 05:36 PM
Russia will also become a super-power again in the near future. That is if it can regain the work ethic that it lost under Stalin and a few entrepreneurs move in (or actually stay there for that matter). It has massive amounts of natural resources and controls the gas supply to Europe. If it's people will get off their backside and stop expecting the government to supply everything for them, like the commies did for them, they will improve their quality of life and increase their power. I just hope, for their sake, that they regain their work ethic. I am also thinking of either moving there when I have done a degree to be one of those new entrepreneurs, or investing in one of their companies.

Three words - 'Development as Freedom'

Read it.

Two questions:

What the hell is it about?
Does it agree with me?
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Uropa
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Pidgeon Island
Dec 22 2006, 06:52 PM
Uropa
Dec 22 2006, 06:37 PM
Pidgeon Island
Dec 22 2006, 05:36 PM
Russia will also become a super-power again in the near future. That is if it can regain the work ethic that it lost under Stalin and a few entrepreneurs move in (or actually stay there for that matter). It has massive amounts of natural resources and controls the gas supply to Europe. If it's people will get off their backside and stop expecting the government to supply everything for them, like the commies did for them, they will improve their quality of life and increase their power. I just hope, for their sake, that they regain their work ethic. I am also thinking of either moving there when I have done a degree to be one of those new entrepreneurs, or investing in one of their companies.

Three words - 'Development as Freedom'

Read it.

Two questions:

What the hell is it about?
Does it agree with me?

It is about the conditions needed for sustainable, economic development.

It was awarded the Noble Prize in Economics.

And no - it does not agree with you.
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I am also thinking of either moving there when I have done a degree to be one of those new entrepreneurs


Seriously, I wouldn't. My dad knows a few people that moved to Russia. They were all back within six months. The Russians hate foreigners and have a very powerfull Nazi movement that attacks them on sight. If that doesent get you, any buisness you try to start up the mob will try to force their way in on, even kidnapping you if you don't comply.
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Dupitable
Dec 23 2006, 01:42 AM
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I am also thinking of either moving there when I have done a degree to be one of those new entrepreneurs


Seriously, I wouldn't. My dad knows a few people that moved to Russia. They were all back within six months. The Russians hate foreigners and have a very powerfull Nazi movement that attacks them on sight. If that doesent get you, any buisness you try to start up the mob will try to force their way in on, even kidnapping you if you don't comply.

Yeah, I was thinking the mob would be a problem, I could still invest and live in a nice place.
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Amartya Sen proposes that development is a measure of political and educational opportunity rather than mere income-measure or the possession of resources.

Did I get that right, U-ropa?

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Arov
Dec 24 2006, 01:12 AM
Amartya Sen proposes that development is a measure of political and educational opportunity rather than mere income-measure or the possession of resources.

Did I get that right, U-ropa?

Suppose.

His thesis was basically a reaction to the growing trend in developing countries that argued that near unlimited material freedom, with very limited political freedom, was the way forward.

After Chile, however, it was shown to be a one-trick pony and that ultimately, real economic development can only be achieved through a balance of material and political freedoms.

I took issue with PI's comment because of his endorsement of the Soviet work ethic. An ethic enforced through fear of the state, that, as we all know, ended in economic catastropohy due to its endemic inefficiency etc etc

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Uropa
Jan 3 2007, 06:24 PM
I took issue with PI's comment because of his endorsement of the Soviet work ethic. An ethic enforced through fear of the state, that, as we all know, ended in economic catastropohy due to its endemic inefficiency etc etc

I didn't endorse it. I said it was a bad one and that they need to work harder if they want to regain superpower status.
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Uropa
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Dec 22 2006, 05:36 PM
Russia will also become a super-power again in the near future. That is if it can regain the work ethic that it lost under Stalin and a few entrepreneurs move in (or actually stay there for that matter). It has massive amounts of natural resources and controls the gas supply to Europe. If it's people will get off their backside and stop expecting the government to supply everything for them, like the commies did for them, they will improve their quality of life and increase their power. I just hope, for their sake, that they regain their work ethic. I am also thinking of either moving there when I have done a degree to be one of those new entrepreneurs, or investing in one of their companies.

Yes you are.

I am saying they won't regain this mythical ethic or that Russia will ever manage sustainable, diverse growth which is what it needs to become a "super-power"; unless it implements some political reforms.

Your equation that work ethic + shit loads of hydrocarbons = level of development akin to a superpower is completely wrong.

I'm guessing you didn't read Sen as if you had, you would realise this.
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I was referring to when they were peasants. Not under commie rule. If you want me to change it I'll put Stalin and Lenin, although I think Lenin was quite successful, albeit because of the NEP. They had to work hard then or they died of starvation, granted they weren't a superpower then, but they could be now because they don't have to work all day on subsistence farms, they can divert their former zeal into manufacturing or something similar.

Of course they'd need to be willing to work for crap pay until they got on their feet, and they'd probably need a more liberal government and it'd help if business rivals didn't have each other killed, but it could work.

And no, I didn't read Sen. I didn't even consider reading Sen. I'm going off and developing ideas that my history teacher said, and he has a PhD.
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Jan 3 2007, 06:46 PM
I was referring to when they were peasants. Not under commie rule. If you want me to change it I'll put Stalin and Lenin, although I think Lenin was quite successful, albeit because of the NEP. They had to work hard then or they died of starvation, granted they weren't a superpower then, but they could be now because they don't have to work all day on subsistence farms, they can divert their former zeal into manufacturing or something similar.

Of course they'd need to be willing to work for crap pay until they got on their feet, and they'd probably need a more liberal government and it'd help if business rivals didn't have each other killed, but it could work.

And no, I didn't read Sen. I didn't even consider reading Sen. I'm going off and developing ideas that my history teacher said, and he has a PhD.

What convoluted nonsense. I suppose you are still just a bairn, so there remains time.

However, I think it is important to clarify a point.

Sen is a PhD, a lecturer at Harvard AND won the Noble Prize for Economics.

Of course - this pales in comparison with the qualifications of your teacher.



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Well, I suppose you were right this time. I'll get you one day. If it takes me decades and I have to find ot who you are and where you live, I'll get you one day. Yep, I'm a vindictive little bitch.

And it may be convulted nonsense, but it makes more sense than what most people post on this board.
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Jan 3 2007, 07:01 PM


And it may be convulted nonsense, but it makes more sense than what most people post on this board.

I suppose all standards are relative.
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On blogspot he's known as Bachem Macuno, and he was mentioned in the Huffington Post, if he's really the author of the blog he sent me.

So there's a start PI. Good luck and tell me what your puritanical little self finds!

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