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Not the Worst President Ever?
Topic Started: Jan 12 2007, 01:30 AM (337 Views)
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Not the Worst President Ever, But a Definite Contender

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Although George W. Bush is probably not the worst president in U.S. history (Woodrow Wilson may have that dubious honour), the president may be in contention for that title in the post-Second World War era.

Although he still has 2 1/2 years to go in his term and could conceivably orchestrate a late-inning rally, the way he has run his administration to date makes that doubtful. But Bush does have some stiff competition from other post-war administrations that failed—those of John F. Kennedy, Lyndon B. Johnson and Richard M. Nixon.



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He's The Worst Ever

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Historians are loath to predict the future. It is impossible to say with certainty how Bush will be ranked in, say, 2050. But somehow, in his first six years in office he has managed to combine the lapses of leadership, misguided policies and abuse of power of his failed predecessors. I think there is no alternative but to rank him as the worst president in U.S. history.



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(note:- Quotes from articles are delibertly taken out of context...because I wanted to :P )
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The first article also ends by saying he is the worst.
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and therefore the worst—president in the post-Second World War era.


Not the worst but the worst since WW11

Now thats a given and the debate is he that or the worst ever :o



edit:- added last line
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I'd have to say the worst.

The reason why he is the worss which is one among many is that he squandered his perfect oppertunity to perhaps be one of the greatest presidents. This chance came right along after 9/11. In one of the very few and far between times when people literally forget about little issues and became very patriotic and did what the President asked of them, he throws it out on Iraq. You name me one President that thrown way a oppertunity like that? Not a single one but him.

He is the worst president in US history.
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Well an honest and balanced competition is impossible because you'd have to live in that period of time to truly see and understand and experience what that president is done. It's all different when you look in retrospect.


It's easy to say Bush is the worst because you've experienced and been affected by his idiocy.

Not that I'm defending him or anything I fucking hate him, but I'm just saying you can't fairly compare.
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Surely Nixion is the worst ever? Killied 2 million cambodians outside of war without bothering to tell congress/his own people.
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VincentDantes
Jan 12 2007, 07:41 PM
Well an honest and balanced competition is impossible because you'd have to live in that period of time to truly see and understand and experience what that president is done. It's all different when you look in retrospect.


It's easy to say Bush is the worst because you've experienced and been affected by his idiocy.

Not that I'm defending him or anything I fucking hate him, but I'm just saying you can't fairly compare.

That is true but I don't think you need to expierence a person presidency in order to know how he ranks on a list. You look at the history and the effects they had on america. To be fair I'll say we don't know the full effects of the Dubya Presidency yet but it looks bleak.
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You forget Nixon opened relations with China. Not sure if that was good in the long run or not but that should make up for some of the bad.


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2 million innocent and frankly defenseless people killed for no clear reason. Cambodia bombed back into the stoneage. But its all O.k. because relations with China were reopened for America...
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600,000 dead Americans, but it's OK because the slaves were freed.
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Actually yea you would for a fully fair and balanced devision you would need to experience presidencies. Experience and history books are not the same thing.

Now if you compare to presidents from the past than thats more balanced because you're comparing them in retrospect and you get to see not only the effects of their decisions but you are equally weighing them and have no personal grudge or bias for or against them.

So 50 years from now we can looks at dubya's reign of terror and compare him to the other presidents and only then get a fair and balanced answer.
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I think Geroge Wastongtion or however you spell it was the worst. After all because of him we have the U.S and he set the stage for the screw up of all the others Presidents. And who the fuck even likes the U.S?
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Certainly not me.
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Not so stale.
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Dupitable
Jan 14 2007, 09:05 PM
Certainly not me.

wtf?

You're a proffesional murderer and you hate Israel and the US, THE two undisputed greatest countries in the world. Just get out now.
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I hope your joking on all counts...If not, then Christ im ashamed to say im the same nationality as you...

(N.B. No offence to the Americans here btw ;) )
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Not so stale.
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I don't know if I'm joking or not any more. My actual beliefs and my joke ones have sort of merged.
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I think you mean you are now a Joke :Laugh:
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You are sooo Patriotic...
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As a 'professional murderer' I am looking forwards to living in PI's lawless, corporate utopia.
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Israel and US...greatest...wow. Its funny how countries that are on the history scales compared to the rest of the world just little babies think they are so fantastic.

If a country stays great more or less over thousands of years, that country is a great country.

LoL US and Isreal....
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