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| Resignation over Nuclear Trident; Renew Trident? | |
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| Topic Started: Mar 13 2007, 05:51 PM (235 Views) | |
| Jivdom | Mar 13 2007, 05:51 PM Post #1 |
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/6445887.stm Sadly I do not think it will be enough unless a really high profile politicen resigns.
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| Calculators | Mar 13 2007, 06:16 PM Post #2 |
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How very dare you
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I can't say anything more but "I agree". I don't mind Trident personally as long as it gets the f*ck out of Scotland. |
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| Jivdom | Mar 13 2007, 06:20 PM Post #3 |
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and doesn't cost 50 billion? And its not as if half our intended arsenal would be enough for any logical outcome... |
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| Calculators | Mar 13 2007, 06:31 PM Post #4 |
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How very dare you
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I don't know what the price of it will be but i amn't a taxpayer yet so until become one I simply don't care ^_^. |
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| Jivdom | Mar 13 2007, 06:52 PM Post #5 |
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You could still have 50 billion into the health care you use... and we will still be paying when you join the taxed groups it hink... |
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| Love and Honour | Mar 13 2007, 07:18 PM Post #6 |
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Yes Sir; No Sir: 3 Bags Full Sir
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You are a taxpayer as you pay VAT. Direct Taxation is not the only tax. |
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| Calculators | Mar 13 2007, 08:34 PM Post #7 |
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How very dare you
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I only meant direct taxation...
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| Pidgeon Island | Mar 13 2007, 08:42 PM Post #8 |
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Not so stale.
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wtf is direction tax? Because I don't think anoyone pays that. |
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| Calculators | Mar 13 2007, 08:50 PM Post #9 |
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How very dare you
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You pay 40p to the government every time you turn left. It is a secret government plot to make more money and people aren't supposed to know about it so shh! Or it may have been a typo you choose. |
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| Pidgeon Island | Mar 13 2007, 09:15 PM Post #10 |
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Not so stale.
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It's more likely the latter, but the former wouldn't surprise me at all. |
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| Love and Honour | Mar 14 2007, 07:50 AM Post #11 |
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Yes Sir; No Sir: 3 Bags Full Sir
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Mikhail Gorbachev’s letter to the editor of the Times of London <!--QuoteBegin-MIKHAIL GORBACHEV Chairman of the Board of Green Cross International Geneva+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (MIKHAIL GORBACHEV Chairman of the Board of Green Cross International Geneva)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Sir, I want to express my concern over the intention of Tony Blair’s Government to replace the British nuclear arsenal with a new generation of nuclear weapons. This is happening in an alarming setting: the process of reducing the nuclear arms of the US and Russia has stalled; the negotiations on these issues are virtually frozen. Prominent US political leaders — George Shultz, Henry Kissinger, William Perry and Sam Nunn — have expressed concern over this situation and made specific proposals toward ridding the world of nuclear weapons; President Putin has urged George Bush to negotiate a new agreement to replace the START Treaty. There is a real danger of proliferation of nuclear weapons. A few days ago, IAEA head Mohamed ElBaradei stated that the agency can provide no assurance as to the absence of undeclared nuclear activities in 30 countries that have not signed safeguards agreements, adding that many states have been slow to conclude and ratify the additional protocol on more effective control. Under such circumstances, the UK Government’s rush to deploy nuclear missiles whose service life would extend until 2050 is, to say the least, astonishing. The Treaty on NonProliferation of Nuclear Weapons commits the nuclear power to effective measures of nuclear disarmament. In fact, the entire structure of that treaty, which is already under considerable strain, rests on that commitment. The decision to deploy new nuclear missiles would be in contradiction to the spirit of the agreements that helped to end the Cold War. At the time, the United Kingdom supported the US-Soviet accords on cuts in strategic, intermediate-range, and tactical nuclear weapons, which have by now resulted in reducing nuclear arsenals by almost two thirds, and pledged that it would be ready to join the process of nuclear reductions at an appropriate moment. Yet the Government’s arguments in support of the proposed replacement contain no mention of that promise. The statement President Reagan and I made in 1985, that “a nuclear war cannot be won and must never be fought”, was in effect a declaration of the need to rid humankind of nuclear weapons. Today it has an even greater urgency. In a world of new threats and challenges, nuclear weapons do not solve real security problems; indeed, reliance on them is becoming increasingly dangerous. Whatever technical measures are taken to prevent nuclear weapons falling into the hands of terrorists or rogue elements and to prevent a nuclear war breaking out as a result of technical failure or accident, such a possibility will be present so long as nuclear weapons exist. A responsible course of action for the Government would be to postpone the decision on the future of the UK nuclear arsenal at least until the next review conference of the Non-Proliferation Treaty in 2010.[/QUOTE] I have (some time ago) come to the conclusion that Tony Blair is so far up his own arse that he fails to see the consequences of his actions. The sooner he retires (or retired) the better for Britain and the rest of the world. (I do acknowledge, however, he has helped in the NI conflict) |
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| Jivdom | Mar 14 2007, 01:33 PM Post #12 |
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Just saw Prime Ministers Questions and Menzies Campbell is useless... I think I'd rather get Ath to argue the point... |
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| Calculators | Mar 14 2007, 05:26 PM Post #13 |
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How very dare you
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I agree with LH but i wouldn't like David Cameroon to be PM because people would start coming up and hugging me randomly. I don't really know who I would like to become the next PM but I would have voted Lib Dem in the lasty election if I was legible to vote. Depends whose policies I like really. |
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| Jivdom | Mar 14 2007, 06:23 PM Post #14 |
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Bring back Kennedy for the lib dems! He was drunk but still more coherent that Campbell! or bring in a new guy or girl... (preferably Julia Goldsworthy or Nick Klegg) here's hoping for a hung parliament.... Calc. Are you not a scot-nationalist then? |
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| Pidgeon Island | Mar 14 2007, 06:26 PM Post #15 |
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Not so stale.
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Or even better, declare the lib dems a terrorist organisation who support the slaughter of millions of babies every year. |
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| Jivdom | Mar 14 2007, 06:34 PM Post #16 |
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Or better yet... No... |
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| Pidgeon Island | Mar 14 2007, 09:22 PM Post #17 |
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Not so stale.
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MPs voted to keep it. Overwhelmingly. The majority was larger than the number of votes against it. Yay for trident, we can tell Iran to shove it without getting nuked to annihilation now. |
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| sedge | Mar 14 2007, 09:56 PM Post #18 |
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Stale
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^ Yay! |
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| Calculators | Mar 14 2007, 10:37 PM Post #19 |
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How very dare you
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I am a scot nationalist Jiv but i do not see the point of electing them into Westminster tbh. If i could vote in May (holyrood elections) i would certainly vote SNP though. |
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| Pidgeon Island | Mar 14 2007, 11:10 PM Post #20 |
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Not so stale.
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Will you tell all your family to? Gordon Brown might not be able to become PM if the SNP win a good majority. |
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unless a really high profile politicen resigns.





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