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Why the USA should not be allowed out...; ..of its own boarders
Topic Started: Apr 2 2007, 12:15 AM (246 Views)
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6515701.stm
The self proclaimed "land of the free" inprisons someone for 5 years with no trial then says... Ah well... Better luck next time, eh?
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Well its more like another reason the US shouldnt have a "jail everyone for no reason" place like Guantanamo.
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The UK is going the same way under blair... Looks like someone (blair) didn;t understand Mr Berlin's Positive and Negative Freedom lectures and thinks he and his types can be the perfectly Altruistic dictator we're all looking for...
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Well you could have the BNP instead ;)
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As dupitable would like...

Or... We could elect someone with some without a huge superiority complex...
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Nah ill stick with the BNP
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Nah ill stick with the BNP

^^another fascist for the fire...
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Nationalist is far different from a Fascist.
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National socialism = Nazi = BNP.
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Wow ok that argument is so wrong is so many different ways...wow where to begin...
1. National Socialism is not Nazism, National Socialism is the ideal of doing what is best for the country while supporting geographical seperation of races to avoid conflict.
2. Being a Nationalist does not make you a Nazi, nor a national socialist.
3. I wont even bother to inform you what exactly a Nazi is as hopefully common sense exist in British people.


And i could go on, but we've discusssed this before so hopefully i wont have to.
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I could have done a far more detailed response than that to start with, however, I doubt he would not have listened so I didn't.
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So could i, but i dont this this conversation warranted 30 minutes of typing and a small essay worth of information, because as you said, i doubt he'd listen.
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Being a nationalist doesn't make you a fascist... supporting the BNP does.

Being a nation socialist is very close to the Nazi ideology and is the BNP ideology

The BNP are, amongst other things, terribly racist and entirely hypocritical.
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Evey party is hypocritical, so I wouldn't hold that against them.
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They are different degrees of hypocracy. the BNP take the blooody biscuit. They are using islamphobia to frighten the down trodden into supporting them. Ironic really... Them being Christians. Perhaps they have not read the Bible and Qu'ran. Spot the bloody difference...

also considering people like me to be the biggest threat to british society doesn;t make me like them any more... (I don't know if that;s still the case I kinda closed my mind to them entirely shortly after I read their manifesto last general election)
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Back to the point though...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6515701.stm
^^this is why people see the need to blow themselves up. As far as a reason to fight goes...
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That doesn't make me want to blow myself up. In fact that is the situation, or has been the situation in many countries, yet only two groups of people have ever resorted to mass suicidal attacks as a form of stopping the enemy. (and one of those was excusable)
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Is it not a cause worth fighting for? People being taken, allegedly tortured (actually tortured severly) without trial or any rights. No channel of justice? That;s how young angry man are seduced.

To be quite honest I see more sense fighting that cause that fighting an oil war for the sake of the already rich.
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There is a difference between fighting and blowing oneself up.
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So you would be willing to fight but you'd only go so far? Is there nothing that could motivate you to do whatever you could, even if that means death?
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