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Iran/Prisoner Crisis; Shocked this isn;t already on here...
Topic Started: Apr 2 2007, 12:26 AM (373 Views)
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6515995.stm

We don't have a leg to stand on really... Do we?
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But if Iran have a nuke, they will probably shout it in Israel

Do you really think so? Lets say Iran hypothetically have a nuclear weapon.
They fire it at Israel
That justifies an Invasion of Iran by the "west"
Iran gets carpet bombed back into the stone age.
I do not see the where Iran benifits.

Iran has a nuclear weapon but does not fire it at anyone
Anglo-american Arguments look foolish
Iran benifits. UK/USA foriegn policy again is shown to be ridiculous
Any invasion attempt is laughable as the Iranians would resist. Carpet bombing etc would not be justifiable.

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If you were Iranian....and your arch enemy Israel had a nuke...and the governments of said country had a history of wild and wacky military adventures...what would you want?

Oh! I agree with Jiv
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As said before, chances are Iran allready has nukes.

Iran will probably not use them to strike anyone, unless they are moved against.

I suspect they would sue a similar tactic to Iraq in GW2. If AMerica invades iran, they pot their nuke at Israel. This forces Israel to attack Iran, this will not be tolerated by the ant Israel arab nations/groups and they will attack Israel.

I doubt the Russians would nuke AMerica over it. Bearing in mind the Ruskie army has not been payed for 7-9 months, I would be willing to bet they would just refuse to fire them.
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Iran will probably not use them to strike anyone, unless they are moved against.

that;s it exactly. You;d have to be very silly to fire a nuclear weapom unless absolutely nessarcary.

I think the same is true for dear old England (uk). We've got the weapon but I don;t think there is anyway we'd use 'em. The only people we could fire on without getting a nuking back are nations we could destory with carpet bombs if we were that way inclined anyway...

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I doubt the Russians would nuke AMerica over it. Bearing in mind the Ruskie army has not been payed for 7-9 months, I would be willing to bet they would just refuse to fire them.


Well russian words kept the "west" at bay before over Arabism/Arab-nationalism. Who needs action...

remember we could not even get the security council to agree to a strongly worded letter to the Iranians over the prisoner crisis... Pretty clear where they're at.
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Russia is in state, when it is not capable of attacking USA. So well i think that the weopeons that you see in Iraq are from Iran, and Iran,probably buyes it from my Rodina. Russia is trying to make good friens. If before 1917, we wore trying to make friends like England and France, know we are trying to bite USA and NATO.

Iranians are showing off. The west needs to show that it is strong. Not get in the war, but show it. Iran is not sooo strong. The saim was in Iraq.
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Apr 12 2007, 05:39 PM
Iranians are showing off. The west needs to show that it is strong. Not get in the war, but show it. Iran is not sooo strong. The saim was in Iraq.

Tried that before remember? didn't end well.
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They will not understand dipomacy. For them the west is the big enemy. It would be good if they listen. The saim is in Palestin. You go there whit peace. And what they do? Build there community up? No. The don't want to work, they have your money.
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Apr 12 2007, 05:52 PM
They will not understand dipomacy. For them the west is the big enemy. It would be good if they listen. The saim is in Palestin. You go there whit peace. And what they do? Build there community up? No. The don't want to work, they have your money.

Erm... the west IS their big enermy. History's a bitch...
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So they will not stop antil you are destroyed, the saim for my countrie. So well you give them flower of peace and they give you a bomb.

And well in buddhist community we had a talk about a women. You know why she must be killed by idea of muslims? Because she killed two men. This male,tryed to rape her. But she killed a man. :angry: Sooo there are good muslims, that don't try to teach there ways. And there are other. Who remember the good days, when the killed in India and other places. So for them, the west must be destroyed.

So lets stop the chrisitan moral. when you are biten show, other part so that you are biten. You think muslims will understand that we want peace? Hell yea, they will try to kick us more. Like in New York - 2001, London, Moscow and other. Paris will be hitten some day. They want France to be save. So that the french public says - Look we are not attacked, we are good. Well this will again end badly. And well Europe always had a straing diplomacy. Remember 1939?

I learned how Islam was particularly unkind and brutal to Buddhists, because to Moslems the Buddhist represented the most reprehensible type of human personality: the “atheist” holding no monotheistic God image as their object of worship and veneration. We were worse even than the far more numerous Hindus, with their vast pantheon of multiple gods. The Buddhists, to the Muslims, only worshipped the image of a man, and no God higher.

I learned how the monks and nuns and religious students were slaughtered without mercy and piled up and burned, and all terrified survivors were driven like dry leaves before a strong wind, out of the region of India entirely, wherever this Islamic wind blew.

You think that they want peace?

http://youtube.com/watch?v=YGWij9I1gAs
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Again I find the stereotyping of all (or even most) Muslims as Bomb toting wackos with the aim to destroy the west as close to sectarian hate crimes (which is akin, in my book, to racism) as to be criminal.
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Hiigar
Apr 12 2007, 05:59 PM
Remember 1939?


Not really, it was half a century before I was born...

And are you a Buddhist?
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So they will not stop antil you are destroyed, the saim for my countrie. So well you give them flower of peace and they give you a bomb

That's almost funny. We stole their oil for years... Toppled their democratic leader because he would give us his oil... Chocked their economy... Forced them into isolation... Supported saddam Hussain in his war with them... Raped other Arab countries all over the shop... Definately the flower of peace...If I were Iranian I would most definately hate the British and Americans....

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So lets stop the chrisitan moral. when you are biten show, other part so that you are biten. You think muslims will understand that we want peace? Hell yea, they will try to kick us more. Like in New York - 2001, London, Moscow and other. Paris will be hitten some day. They want France to be save. So that the french public says - Look we are not attacked, we are good. Well this will again end badly. And well Europe always had a straing diplomacy. Remember 1939?


You are both ignorant and a Racist. Muslims are responsible for a very small portion of the worlds terror attacks. Look at nothern ireland... For years Christians were the terrorist and were funded by the americans... Have we forgotten?
Which religion was Hitler?
Which religion was Stalin?
Which Religion was King Edward (long shanks)
Which religion labled all others as evil pagans and created Satan?
Being a Muslim does not make you evil and being evil does not make you a muslim.
I'm from a muslim family on my Father's side and I can assure you their are plenty of Muslims who do not fit that bill.


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I learned how the monks and nuns and religious students were slaughtered without mercy and piled up and burned, and all terrified survivors were driven like dry leaves before a strong wind, out of the region of India entirely, wherever this Islamic wind blew.

That is the same with most religions. The modern Holy War principle was created by the Catholic church to attempt to annex Jerusalem... Don;t get me wrong I do not like organised religion but Islam is no different to any other...
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Apr 12 2007, 07:43 PM
Which religion was Stalin?

Hate to point this out to you. He was an L+H type atheist.

He persecuted religions. He killed Christian bishops, oppressed Muslims minorities and banned Jews from traveling to Israel.
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Exactly... Not a muslim...
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Well he wasn't religious at all. So you can't include him when bitching about religion.
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My point was;
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Being a Muslim does not make you evil and being evil does not make you a muslim.

So I can use him as an example... Idiot.
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My point was;
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Being a Muslim does not make you evil and being evil does not make you a muslim.

So I can use him as an example... Idiot.

Do you want me to make the pictures include you as well as Arov and L+H? :lol:
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Apr 12 2007, 07:48 PM
Jivdom
Apr 12 2007, 07:43 PM
Which religion was Stalin?

Hate to point this out to you. He was an L+H type atheist.

He persecuted religions. He killed Christian bishops, oppressed Muslims minorities and banned Jews from traveling to Israel.


eh I never harmed a person in my 40 years
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Apr 12 2007, 07:55 PM
eh I never harmed a person in my 40 years

You so have.

You've hurt your wife by having an affair with Arov.
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Hmm I am beginning to think the white coats are needed in your house :rolleyes:
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