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Topic Started: Aug 21 2009, 04:48 AM (1,626 Views)
Old Zertaxia
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Blue Blessed Dolphins
Sep 29 2009, 04:39 AM
JB
 
Or would you prefer to lower taxes on cigarettes


Yes I would, I'm tired of paying 6$ for a pack of Marlboro reds.
And on another side note, so called "sin-taxes" like those on cigarettes are silly and hypocritical. They should be abolished.

BBD should be free to kill himself however he pleases and then be denied health care for his self-induced lung cancer (and/or other respiratory disease) because he blew all his money on smokes...
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If he's going to fuck up the rest of us with the second-hand smoke from his death-sticks, then he should damn well pay us compensation for it.

Other than that, I'd agree that 'sin taxes' are wrong.
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Blue Blessed Dolphins
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Why should I pay yall, unless I blowing smoke right into your face.
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You smell?
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Old Zertaxia
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Yes(ish). BBD should be able to smoke in the privacy of his own home and in places where our exposure to his cancer gas will be 'negligible', perhaps so many feet from public buildings or whatever the local people come up with....
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Blue Blessed Dolphins
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I use body spray.... Old Spice Swagger.
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Old Zertaxia
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Hmph. Body spray. What is wrong with good old-fashioned deoderant? Too good for, are ya, boy? Hmm?
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I use that too, grandpa.
Edited by Blue Blessed Dolphins, Sep 29 2009, 05:02 AM.
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Old Zertaxia
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Then perhaps I'm confused as to the utility of body spray? Is it just for smell?

Because if you use a product that does not prevent odor, simply makes you smell (good [questionable]), I really have to say, thats kinda gay.
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And I would just like to say, OMG, I'm forgetting words all over the place. Hope its not early on-set Alzheimer's...
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Dupitable
Sep 29 2009, 12:57 AM
On your Italian point, I have to agree and disagree, the Italian leadership were a great liability to the Germans, but the Italian army were actually remarkably good, compared to modern popular opinion. (bar Greece and Op Compas) The Italian army when commanded by German commanders actually, pound for pound fought as well in defence as the Germans did despite worse equipment.#

((sorry, I do actually have a lot of sympathy for the Italian army. You probably noticed I have disapeared for about a year. This is because I was studying military history, so I am quite up on this, and I believe a great injustice has been done to the Italian army in the Western Desert Campaign and I think Rommel has unfairly and perminantly tarnished their reputation. I am currently writing a book on the issue))

Regarding the second point actually the Japanese did draw up plans for an attack on the USSR as they viewed the Chinese as backwards and the Soviets as the main threat, however, with the initial successes of Barbarossa, they decided that the Germans would win easily and not need their support, so they diverted their military stregnth into China rather then Russia. This again, is one of those flippant decisions that could have changed the outcome of the war.
Im a war studies student myself and i would have to disagree with you on the Japs. yes plans were drawn up, but plans are drawn up for nearly everything really, that does not mean that it would be put into effect. Your right however that the initial success of Barbarossa did show that the Germans would be able to win and win without help, but i don't believe the Japs would have invaded regardless, esp. since they signed a non aggression pact with Russia which allowed the latter to send troops up to fight the germans.

The Italians, again i have to agree that it was overall the leaders failure to actually lead which cost them dear, but their training overall was lax compared to others, even compared to Britain to some extent and before the war that was awful!
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Oh and Old Z im damn proud of the NHS overall. Its an important British institution and i have to say i would rather have it than not have it at all. This is down to the fact that my mother is often very ill and if she had to pay for her helf, she just would not be able to afford it. By having the NHS she knows that no matter what she will get the treatment she deserves and needs.

As for Fag tax and the like, you would never be able to abolish them as thats what the governments main injection of ash comes from. The tax on cigarettes, on booze, on fuel et al is the main income for the government so for that to be abolished you would see a great increase in other taxes such as VAT and National Insurance and the like.
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I agree with NC. But I am tired right now and will write a full rebuttal to Old Z later.

NC, you know you said "injection of ash", not 'cash'. This may be the best Freudian slip I've ever seen!
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Haha, i didn't notice that :P

Ah well, im not going to change it now :P
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How do you like THAT side boob?
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Joe Bobs
Sep 29 2009, 01:12 AM
You'll have to let us know the title of your book when its published, I'd love to read it!
I'm not sure of a title yet. I'm thinking Rommel and Italy's Lost Legions. Histories lost heroes are a subject that interests me hugely and I have another couple od events and people in mind as well.

It is still in the research stage as of yet and I am considering waiting until I get to Sandhurst to publish it as I will more easily be able to discuss it with their military historians who will give me the time of day.
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Here's a fine example of Sin Tax idiocy:

Cleveland Browns Stadium (American football team, for the non-American majority) was built in the last 90s. It's funding was, in part, paid for by Al Lerner, the teams owner. A majority of the funding, though, was up to Cuyahoga County (where Cleveland is located) to come up with.

How did the city raise those millions and millions of dollars? A local sin tax on cigarettes. Then what do they do? Ban smoking at the stadium. This was before U.S. states had begun banning smoking in public places, so if not for the facility's own ban, it would have been otherwise perfectly legal to smoke in the non-seating areas.

So smokers literally paid millions of dollars at the cash register to help finance the building of the stadium, paid the exact same admission as every other patron, and then were told they couldn't enjoy the very vice which built the damn place.

It also hasn't helped that the Browns are arguably the worst team in the NFL...but that's beside the point.
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I believe the best system for health care is one where there is a Private and Public service, as well not everyone is going to be fortunate to be born with excellent health, and there is always to be the lower classes in capitalism that will need to be taken care of, but i don't believe the taxpayer should be on the hook for everyone.
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Sep 29 2009, 04:13 PM
I believe the best system for health care is one where there is a Private and Public service, as well not everyone is going to be fortunate to be born with excellent health, and there is always to be the lower classes in capitalism that will need to be taken care of, but i don't believe the taxpayer should be on the hook for everyone.
Grammar, TRE, grammar.

Throw in a few gross misspellings, and this is reminiscent of F4U in his prime.
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Well ya, I never claimed to have perfect grammar or spelling :P That and I'll be honest, I've not been entirely sober these past few weeks....
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Atta boy
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