Welcome Guest [Log In] [Register]


Regional Summary




Founded - 30 April 2005
Population - 165 Nations
World Ranking - 61
Regional Power - High

Government of the Global Right Alliance


Speaker of the People's Assembly and World Assembly Delegate
Pidgeon Island

Members of the Committee
TBA

World Assembly Delegate
Angusp (aka Bodegraven)

High General of the GRADF
Joe Bobs
Welcome to the Global Right Alliance's forums!

Firstly, you can only see a very limited amount of the forums at the moment. You will be able to see the full forums and properly participate in our region and its community when you register.

Join our Community


Now, on to the region itself. Don't let the name, specifically the "Right", fool you. We've got members from across the political spectrum, and our political parties have always reflected this. The Global Right Alliance (GRA), as primarily a gameplay region, has been everything from an anarchy to a monarchy to a homegrown rotatorship. The region has had such governments because of its culture, which adores political intrigue and thrives on confrontation. With the increase of the region's population, many veterans have returned. It is the beginning of a new Global Right Alliance and a new government system.

I know the forums can be quite intimidating; there's people who have been here for nearly a decade and have over 10,000 posts. However, we welcome new members and encourage them to get involved. If you want help finding your way around, we have resources to help you to get on your way.

Getting Started


If you're already a member please log in to your account to access all of our features.

Username:   Password:
Add Reply
  • Pages:
  • 1
  • 8
  • 14
Joe Bobs is back!
Topic Started: Aug 21 2009, 04:48 AM (1,628 Views)
Northern Chittowa
Member Avatar
The Grand Old Duke
[ *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  * ]
The Ruescher Empire
Sep 25 2009, 02:32 PM
And I'm not arguing with you on this, I'm just telling you what I like
Typical end response from an ignorant person in a debate...

TRE, you are an idiot.

In other news, howdy Joe, things are not too bad thanks, getting busier now im back at uni, but otherwise not bad. :0 How bout yourself?
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
The Ruescher Empire
Member Avatar
Buh
[ *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  * ]
Sigh why are we still discussing this? I don't really want to....But as for genetics and blah blah blah the fact is some genetic traits are more predominant than others. Look at the fact that if two white Europeans have a kid he will generally not have black skin. I know we're are freaking related dating my centuries/millenniums ago! Jesus Christ make one simple comment and get drawn into a discussion I don't even know how it started....
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Joe Bobs
Member Avatar
GRADF High General | FRA Arch Chancellor
[ *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  * ]
Wow, great debating skills for a guy who has to defend such an extreme point of view. What a great leader!

TRE your last post makes absolutely no sense. What does the fact that two white parents don't have black kids (usually) have to do with anything? If you're going to make bold statements about genetics you need to have something to back it up with.

And no, saying you're interested in racial types isn't 'one little comment'. I don't know if you know this, but nazism/racism is kind of a big deal.

I only did biology at a-level and I have access to the information I mentioned above, so you don't exactly have to be Richard Dawkins. Read a science book.

Anywho, I'm good NC cheers. :p Just starting back at uni and now working two jobs so busy year!

ed: Why don't I have permission to post in the labour camp forums?
Edited by Joe Bobs, Sep 26 2009, 03:32 AM.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
fighter4u
Member Avatar
our land is fill with blood may our people know only love.....
[ *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  * ]
Joe Bobs
Sep 23 2009, 09:48 PM
So are you still the baby of the region? :p
Nope, not anymore. BBD is also sixteen years old. Those I was born in April, I wonder what month BBD was born in...
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
The Ruescher Empire
Member Avatar
Buh
[ *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  * ]
Joe Bobs
Sep 26 2009, 02:44 AM
Wow, great debating skills for a guy who has to defend such an extreme point of view. What a great leader!

TRE your last post makes absolutely no sense. What does the fact that two white parents don't have black kids (usually) have to do with anything? If you're going to make bold statements about genetics you need to have something to back it up with.

And no, saying you're interested in racial types isn't 'one little comment'. I don't know if you know this, but nazism/racism is kind of a big deal.

I only did biology at a-level and I have access to the information I mentioned above, so you don't exactly have to be Richard Dawkins. Read a science book.

Anywho, I'm good NC cheers. :p Just starting back at uni and now working two jobs so busy year!

ed: Why don't I have permission to post in the labour camp forums?
God dammit I'm not racist >_< Or a Nazi! I don't believe in the geographical separation of the races (nazism) and I don't believe one race is better then the other. I believe each race has its own unique qualities that are interesting (I will admit I admire European qualities more then others), I do happen to enjoy the mixing of predominant racial types to see what type of result will occur! I DON'T SEE HOW THATS RACIST! If anything mixing races would be the opposite of being a racist...fuck sakes...Just making a comment on how I thought the mixing of a German and a Native was interesting and I get all this....
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Blue Blessed Dolphins
Member Avatar
Professor
[ *  *  *  *  *  *  * ]
November, F4U.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Joe Bobs
Member Avatar
GRADF High General | FRA Arch Chancellor
[ *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  * ]
TRE, my point earlier in the post you didn't reply to (making me guess you don't understand) is that (Caps to help you):

THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS RACE!

Yes, people have different skin colour and broadly we can refer to this as race, but what you're talking about simply does not exist. There is no German cheekbone etc.

edit: Please wikipedia haploid number, read that article, and come back and join the discussion.
Edited by Joe Bobs, Sep 26 2009, 11:40 PM.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
The Ruescher Empire
Member Avatar
Buh
[ *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  * ]
Sigh must we really continue? I made my one post comment and it carried on far more then I'd like. i'll agree with whatever you're saying. And I'll maintain my comment that the mixing of different races interesting.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Blue Blessed Dolphins
Member Avatar
Professor
[ *  *  *  *  *  *  * ]
Just say skin color instead of race, and it will be over.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Dupitable
Member Avatar
How do you like THAT side boob?
[ *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  * ]
I have never read through such an alawrming set of terrible unresearched documentary level history regurgitated word for word as fact.

Yes the winter played a part in the German defeat. But not as much as everyone makes out. There are a huge ammount of other factors. If you would like to know them, buy a book by a proper military historian.

Oh and Stalin raising Russia to a new class?

Absolutely.

Look at Russia's position when Stalin came to power and look at it when he died. Stalin raised the USSR from a backwards third rate country to become the worlds second largest industrial nation with control of all of Europe east of Prague. Now he didn't exactly make the USSR a nice place to live, but did he better it's position in the world? Absolutely.

I mean, I'm not exactly a communist sympathiser, but to say Stalin did not better Russia is simply nonsense.
Edited by Dupitable, Sep 28 2009, 03:27 AM.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
The Ruescher Empire
Member Avatar
Buh
[ *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  * ]
Well I'm thankful SOMEONE knows what Stalin did for Russia...
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Northern Chittowa
Member Avatar
The Grand Old Duke
[ *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  * ]
Dupitable
Sep 28 2009, 03:23 AM
I have never read through such an alawrming set of terrible unresearched documentary level history regurgitated word for word as fact.

Yes the winter played a part in the German defeat. But not as much as everyone makes out. There are a huge ammount of other factors. If you would like to know them, buy a book by a proper military historian.

Oh and Stalin raising Russia to a new class?

Absolutely.

Look at Russia's position when Stalin came to power and look at it when he died. Stalin raised the USSR from a backwards third rate country to become the worlds second largest industrial nation with control of all of Europe east of Prague. Now he didn't exactly make the USSR a nice place to live, but did he better it's position in the world? Absolutely.

I mean, I'm not exactly a communist sympathiser, but to say Stalin did not better Russia is simply nonsense.
The part winter played is often overlooked imo, esp. when you look at the equipment and clothing used/wore by the germans were completely unprepared for the harsh cold russian winter...

But yes, Hitlers own tactical ineptness was also a factor in their final defeat (wanting to spend more time taking stalingrad instead of just going around it) as well as Stalins changes to the red army half way through, and stalin not caring how many of his soldiers were killed. One more point would be the vast amount of tanks they could produce towards the end, where something completely stupid like 1000 tanks a day was rolling off the production lines.

As for what Stalin did, well, i suppose he did make Russia an important player on the world stage, but i would say thats about it and i wouldnt say that he did a very good job of it...It was not a sustainable position seeing as it was built with no social reforms, as its collapse showed.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Lower Bowmania
Member Avatar
Simply ravishing...
[ *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  * ]
Dupitable
Sep 28 2009, 03:23 AM
I have never read through such an alawrming set of terrible unresearched documentary level history regurgitated word for word as fact.

Yes the winter played a part in the German defeat. But not as much as everyone makes out. There are a huge ammount of other factors. If you would like to know them, buy a book by a proper military historian.

Oh and Stalin raising Russia to a new class?

Absolutely.

Look at Russia's position when Stalin came to power and look at it when he died. Stalin raised the USSR from a backwards third rate country to become the worlds second largest industrial nation with control of all of Europe east of Prague. Now he didn't exactly make the USSR a nice place to live, but did he better it's position in the world? Absolutely.

I mean, I'm not exactly a communist sympathiser, but to say Stalin did not better Russia is simply nonsense.
If the second half of that was in response to my post, you may want to read what I said a bit more closely.

Yes, both Hitler and Stalin improved their respective countries' place on the world stage. But that is merely elevating the position of a country and government. "Nation" inherently refers the people that make up that country. Clearly, if you separate 'Country' from 'Nation' then no, Stalin did not advance his NATION. You acknowledged as much in your response (not in so many words).

Now...if you and TRE are arguing for the political advancement of Germany and the USSR, sure. I'll grant that they enjoyed a certain measure of success on that level. But I think we're comparing apples and oranges.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Joe Bobs
Member Avatar
GRADF High General | FRA Arch Chancellor
[ *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  * ]
Lower Bowmania
Sep 28 2009, 11:13 AM
Dupitable
Sep 28 2009, 03:23 AM
I have never read through such an alawrming set of terrible unresearched documentary level history regurgitated word for word as fact.

Yes the winter played a part in the German defeat. But not as much as everyone makes out. There are a huge ammount of other factors. If you would like to know them, buy a book by a proper military historian.

Oh and Stalin raising Russia to a new class?

Absolutely.

Look at Russia's position when Stalin came to power and look at it when he died. Stalin raised the USSR from a backwards third rate country to become the worlds second largest industrial nation with control of all of Europe east of Prague. Now he didn't exactly make the USSR a nice place to live, but did he better it's position in the world? Absolutely.

I mean, I'm not exactly a communist sympathiser, but to say Stalin did not better Russia is simply nonsense.
If the second half of that was in response to my post, you may want to read what I said a bit more closely.

Yes, both Hitler and Stalin improved their respective countries' place on the world stage. But that is merely elevating the position of a country and government. "Nation" inherently refers the people that make up that country. Clearly, if you separate 'Country' from 'Nation' then no, Stalin did not advance his NATION. You acknowledged as much in your response (not in so many words).

Now...if you and TRE are arguing for the political advancement of Germany and the USSR, sure. I'll grant that they enjoyed a certain measure of success on that level. But I think we're comparing apples and oranges.
My sentiments exactly. Also what NC said:


As for what Stalin did, well, i suppose he did make Russia an important player on the world stage, but i would say thats about it and i wouldnt say that he did a very good job of it...It was not a sustainable position seeing as it was built with no social reforms, as its collapse showed.


The point is that the country's advance was at such a cost to its people that it was unsustainable. It is not comparable to, for example, the rise of the US in the 20th Century, which is a far more sustainable rise (so long as the banks never ask for their money back, which they won't).

As for Russia, I agree with George Friedman's book The Next 100 Years. He says that Russia is unsustainable as a nation. It will one day collapse, disintegrating into smaller, more demographically appropriate countries, i.e. Muslim nations in the region north of the Caucasus, Pacific states, Siberian nations and a collection of smaller European countries.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Dupitable
Member Avatar
How do you like THAT side boob?
[ *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  * ]
I sincearly doubt that, all aspects of modern Russian history point to the exact opposit of that happening. The Chechen Wars have been won, the insurgants have now largely been pushed into the border mountains and are carrying out an unpopular guerilla war, mostly run and fought by Arabs, not the local people. Russia is slowly but surely solidifying the positions of it's surrounding puppet states like Ossetia, Abkhazia and Transdniestr and has threatened the Ukraine with conflict if it is not allowed continued access to the Crimea. I see no sign of Russia collapsing further and suspect any claims that it will do so are fancifull at best.

Indeed just two months ago, Belarus began sending it's officer Cadet for training in Russia as a precurser to the unification of their militaries which Belarus wishes to be a precurser to the complete unification of Russia and Belarus.

But it was not just on the world stage Stalin was successfull, he transformed Russia from a poor and backwards agricultural state to a first rate Industrial nation, that was to become, comparatively rich. While some scientists were sent to Gulags, other areas of science flourished and the education system became free and widespread like nothing Russia had seen before, including access to education for women, something that had been suggested at by earlier rulers, but only fully implemented by Stalin. Literacy rates increased astronomically.

We have to remember, Stalin was responsible for a welfare state including free education and healthcare ten years before Atlee came to power. At his death employment was at an all time high.

We have to remember, The USSR was an incredibly backwards and fractured state prior to Stalin, and wether we like it or not he unified it to a state where people would not even consider deunification for fourty years. The only thing he really failed to do was institute mass population transfer whcih would have destroyed the ethnic nationalism within the Soviet Union and would most likely have stopped any eventual fracturing of the state, even if the communist government were to fall.

Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
The Ruescher Empire
Member Avatar
Buh
[ *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  * ]
Russia does owe a lot to that man. I think Dup pretty much said anything I could add, but I will add that the USSR had free health care and education, which the US and many other western nations still do not have.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Old Zertaxia
Member Avatar
The Ex-Speaker
[ *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  * ]
FREE HEALTHCARE?!?!?! WHY SHOULD BUMS AND ILLEGALS GET THEIR DRUGS SCOTTFREE!?!?!?!

ALLCAPS!!!!
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
The Ruescher Empire
Member Avatar
Buh
[ *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  * ]
Because we care?
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Old Zertaxia
Member Avatar
The Ex-Speaker
[ *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  * ]
WE CERTAINLY DO NOT!!!!

(allcaps)
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
The Ruescher Empire
Member Avatar
Buh
[ *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  * ]
I think our taxes show we do.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
1 user reading this topic (1 Guest and 0 Anonymous)
ZetaBoards - Free Forum Hosting
Join the millions that use us for their forum communities. Create your own forum today.
Learn More · Sign-up Now
Go to Next Page
« Previous Topic · Introductions · Next Topic »
Add Reply
  • Pages:
  • 1
  • 8
  • 14