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| Tweet Topic Started: Jul 7 2008, 10:03 PM (358 Views) | |
| MachShot | Jul 7 2008, 10:03 PM Post #1 |
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You may have heard of the recent demand made by Viacom. For google to send over all of the YouTube records. All of them. Aside fromt the fact that that is Terabytes upon Terabytes of Text, its the personal information that has me really conserned. Viacom would basicaly get half of all of the IP addresses in the US on top of what videos they watched. Luckily, Google is protesting that, so I must ask what to you think of this invasion of privacy and rights of epic porportions? |
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| EmperorBobV | Jul 7 2008, 10:14 PM Post #2 |
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Sweet, a discussion. I'll add my input in a little while. Right now I'm half typing my next post in the Death Note RP. |
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| Numa | Jul 7 2008, 10:20 PM Post #3 |
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And Viacom needs a ludicrously huge amount of spam because...? |
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| Led371 | Jul 8 2008, 10:15 AM Post #4 |
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They claim that Google/Youtube is aiding online users in sharing copyrighted materials (videos) across Youtube. They want the record of people posting and watching these videos. |
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| Numa | Jul 8 2008, 10:23 AM Post #5 |
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Wow. If they DO get all the records, where the hell will they store it all? And more importantly, how many men would it take to search through all of that? Viacom=Retard, for not thinking things through. AT ALL. |
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| Crazyjeffy | Jul 8 2008, 10:56 AM Post #6 |
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Most of stuff on Youtube is poorly made home videos, a good percentage is mostly Machinima and other video game trailers, there's A LOT of music videos there, and like, 1% of all it's videos are from TV shows or movies. I think it's pretty stupid. |
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| EmperorBobV | Jul 8 2008, 11:43 AM Post #7 |
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Quick question. Don't you mean people? I doubt that they would have only men working on it. Time estimate: Well, first they have to fight Google for the information. This could take anywhere from a few months to a year. Once they have the information, they would probably use a computer program to search for specific words (i.e. names of shows/copyrighted material). Then they would have people search through the hits. I'm going to guess that it would take a few months to run such a test on a low end computer (depending on the actual amount of data. Anyone know this/have a decent estimate? Preferably something more precise than "Terabytes upon Terabytes"). So when they search it it'll probably take a week at the very most. I'm guessing there will be millions of hits, which would take a single person (working nonstop, assuming sleep, food and water are not needed, and without getting sidetracked at all) probably at least a year or two to search though, so with 100 people working on it, I'd say it would take at least...three to four months time for them to sift through the hits. Then they'd have to file lawsuits (assuming they actually find anything that could help their case), this whole process could take anywhere from a few months to a few years (depending on how well Google can stall). And if they win these, they could stand to make billions of dollars (if they played their cards right). I'd say the whole process could take anywhere from 1 to 4 years. NOTE: all estimates are quite likely very inaccurate, due to the fact that the number of variables involved is incredibly high. From a business perspective, I have to take Viacom's side. In my opinion this was a decent business move. Due to Google's size and its rapid climb, it is a target for Viacom and many other companies. Any damage to Google from said companies would make the companies more money in the future, as a loss would damage Google's reputation, the trust of the people, and their bank account, which would mean more activity for them (the other companies), and more activity means more profit. From a strategic perspective, I'd say that it's not a horrible move, as even if people hate them, they'll still watch the stuff they produce. Just look at DatteBayo. They act like complete asses, but people still look to them for Naruto and Bleach subs (as well as others). In fact, this is part of the reason I do use them. And from a consumer perspective, I hate you Viacom. Stop trying to destroy that which is great. |
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| Led371 | Jul 8 2008, 11:48 AM Post #8 |
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Yes, from a business perspective it seems smart but because of the sheer size of the Google/Youtube records it would be a complete waste of time and very few of the law suits would go through. It's a good idea but the planning isn't well thought out. |
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| Immortalblade | Jul 8 2008, 01:16 PM Post #9 |
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Must....resist.....urge......to commit arson against Viacom. But in all seriousness this should never go through. Not only would it be violating the privacy of everyone who uses google and youtube but it would mean viacom could use the info to blackmail millions of people. Also what if Viacom loses all that info and it ends up in the hands of criminals? They would literly have access to the personal info of over 100 million people. Guess what that would mean. |
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| MachShot | Jul 8 2008, 04:09 PM Post #10 |
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From a business perspective, yes it was smart. With the IP addresses (also part of the info) They can a) track the IP and sue the household,
send in spyware to watch every thing we do on the internet and then send us spam based off that info, or c) both (my favorite).This is nothing more that a personal attack on the YouTube user community, aka half the nation of the US. I despise Viacom for being the epitome of economical hypocrisy (writer's strike anyone?) and I despise the Federal Judge that issued this ruling for not knowing what the fuck the Internet is and how the fuck it works. Probably thinks it's a series of tubes as well. A series of YouTubes. If Viacom has the power and will to look through the documents, they have the power and will to simply go on YouTube and request certain videos be taken down. Not that I care for the economic security for the corporation nominated "Most likely to become Big Brother" in my book. |
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| TheSnickersPuma | Jul 8 2008, 10:01 PM Post #11 |
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Exactly to all of that, Machshot, I have felt that if anything wants to control what a person as a consumer does, it would be coorperations. Really, it's a smart move. In essence, they would control YouTube more than Google would, since Google lets almost anything through. Even if Viacom (that name even sounds evil) gets and takes down the thousand or so videos that are from their movies, it would still leave open the spot for people to splice scenes or use scenes from such movies for the show's effect. It's just not good for the people. Then again, since when did coorperations care about the consumer. They're machines, I say! |
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| Led371 | Jul 8 2008, 10:03 PM Post #12 |
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I might also bring this up. Many video names (and vidcaps) are misleading. Users make the video appear as something else to throw off corporations (such as Colgate). Therefore, Viacom would still have an enormous problem ridding Youtube of their content. |
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| TheSnickersPuma | Jul 8 2008, 10:04 PM Post #13 |
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Exactly. How can Viacom stop people from putting their stuff into their videos? |
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| Numa | Jul 8 2008, 10:04 PM Post #14 |
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Mama Luigi visits a Soapland? |
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| Led371 | Jul 8 2008, 10:06 PM Post #15 |
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Yes. and This. |
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send in spyware to watch every thing we do on the internet and then send us spam based off that info, or c) both (my favorite).
1:58 PM Jul 11