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| Debate: The Senate Size Act (2014) | ||
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| Topic Started: 19th January 2014 - 09:31 PM (474 Views) | ||
| Elpidia | 19th January 2014 - 09:31 PM Post #1 | |
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I hereby open debate on the following bill. The debate will last until at least Jan. 26th, 2013 (4:31pm EST), unless closed earlier by majority vote.
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| Chernobereg | 20th January 2014 - 05:43 PM Post #2 | |
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So the size of the Senate is five or seven? If we're going to limit the Senate, may as well limit it to a specific number ie seven. | |
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| Elpidia | 20th January 2014 - 05:45 PM Post #3 | |
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It is limited to seven, but we need some mechanism if there are fewer than seven candidates. According to this act in that case the number would be reduced to five for that term. | |
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| Tytor | 20th January 2014 - 05:56 PM Post #4 | |
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This sounds acceptable. I like it. A little question, though: why not simply limit it to seven and apply section 4 in the event of fewer than seven candidates? |
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His Majesty Michael the First, by the Grace of God, King of Tytor and her Colonies, and Lord Protector of Floodwater His Excellency Juvenal Massaquoi, President of Ubakasa, Protector of the Revolution, and Father of His People Factbook -- News -- Press Office Former Governor-General of The Infinite Alliance Former Ambassador to Albion and the Global Right Alliance Former Vice Premier and Speaker of the Senate of the Independent Order Professional Procrastinator In firm opposition to Donald Trump's inevitable reelection campaign in 2020 Non-partisan and proud of it "A witty saying proves nothing." - Voltaire | ||
| Elpidia | 20th January 2014 - 05:58 PM Post #5 | |
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To be honest I'd prefer for the number of elected Senators to exceed the number of appointed Senators as often as possible. I think the current provisions provide for that. |
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| Tytor | 20th January 2014 - 06:01 PM Post #6 | |
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All right. In that case I fully support this proposal. | |
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His Majesty Michael the First, by the Grace of God, King of Tytor and her Colonies, and Lord Protector of Floodwater His Excellency Juvenal Massaquoi, President of Ubakasa, Protector of the Revolution, and Father of His People Factbook -- News -- Press Office Former Governor-General of The Infinite Alliance Former Ambassador to Albion and the Global Right Alliance Former Vice Premier and Speaker of the Senate of the Independent Order Professional Procrastinator In firm opposition to Donald Trump's inevitable reelection campaign in 2020 Non-partisan and proud of it "A witty saying proves nothing." - Voltaire | ||
| CGJ | 20th January 2014 - 08:14 PM Post #7 | |
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I fully support this proposal. | |
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| Great Jonathania | 20th January 2014 - 08:17 PM Post #8 | |
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I vote NAY for two reasons: 1. We must represent the people. The more seats, the more they are represented. 2. Changing the number of seats in the senate would require a change to the Constitution, not the law. Edited by Great Jonathania, 20th January 2014 - 08:20 PM.
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| Chernobereg | 20th January 2014 - 08:47 PM Post #9 | |
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Jonathania, we aren't at voting yet. This is still debate. |
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| Elpidia | 21st January 2014 - 02:08 AM Post #10 | |
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Firstly I'd like to say that your use of large fonts and colors is obnoxious. Next, I'll respond to your points. 1. I disagree, a Senate of 7 better serves the people by having more active members. 2. You clearly have not read the Constitution, or you would know that it empowers the Senate to determine its own size. |
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| Elpidia | 21st January 2014 - 09:40 PM Post #11 | |
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I motion for a vote. | |
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| Chernobereg | 21st January 2014 - 09:42 PM Post #12 | |
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I agree to the motion that this be put to vote. | |
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| CGJ | 22nd January 2014 - 02:33 AM Post #13 | |
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I second the motion. | |
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| Great Jonathania | 22nd January 2014 - 03:05 AM Post #14 | |
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Where can I vote? | |
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| Great Jonathania | 22nd January 2014 - 03:16 AM Post #15 | |
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Firstly I'd like to apologize for using an easy-to-read font size that's more comfortable to read in my opinion, and then I'll respond: 1. I see what your saying, but only the active members would vote for senators in the first place, and only members who were truly active would run. 2. I thought it said 5-15 depending on the amount of people who run, but I should probably reread that before I confirm. |
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| Beatrice | 22nd January 2014 - 04:27 AM Post #16 | |
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I motion to vote as well. It's a solid proposal. | |
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| Tytor | 22nd January 2014 - 03:43 PM Post #17 | |
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I second this. |
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His Majesty Michael the First, by the Grace of God, King of Tytor and her Colonies, and Lord Protector of Floodwater His Excellency Juvenal Massaquoi, President of Ubakasa, Protector of the Revolution, and Father of His People Factbook -- News -- Press Office Former Governor-General of The Infinite Alliance Former Ambassador to Albion and the Global Right Alliance Former Vice Premier and Speaker of the Senate of the Independent Order Professional Procrastinator In firm opposition to Donald Trump's inevitable reelection campaign in 2020 Non-partisan and proud of it "A witty saying proves nothing." - Voltaire | ||
| Elpidia | 22nd January 2014 - 03:50 PM Post #18 | |
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With four seconds the motion carries. | |
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