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| Debate: World Assembly Procedures Act | ||
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| Topic Started: 22nd January 2014 - 01:07 PM (411 Views) | ||
| Elpidia | 22nd January 2014 - 01:07 PM Post #1 | |
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I hereby open debate on the following bill proposed by Premier Beatrice. Debate shall last until at least Jan. 29th, 8:07am (EST), unless closed earlier by majority vote.
Edited by Elpidia, 23rd January 2014 - 01:21 AM.
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| CGJ | 22nd January 2014 - 01:41 PM Post #2 | |
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I fully support this proposal, just a small grammar fix: "(8) The Speaker may defer this vote to the majority opinion of Independent WA Members in cases of Commendations and Condemnations with the advice and consent of the Premier. In such cases the WA Delegate shall follow the same procedure used when voting for General Assembly votes to determine the majority opinion of Independent WA Members." |
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| Elpidia | 22nd January 2014 - 02:49 PM Post #3 | |
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Thanks for the friendly amendment Senator, corrected. As far as the bill itself, I too see no problems. It seems excellently worded to me. |
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| Tytor | 22nd January 2014 - 05:22 PM Post #4 | |
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Seems good enough to me. I think, however, the wording in section 3 should be "non-governmental" rather than "non-government". | |
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| Great Jonathania | 22nd January 2014 - 07:14 PM Post #5 | |
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Seems good. | |
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| Elpidia | 23rd January 2014 - 01:22 AM Post #6 | |
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Thanks Senator, fixed. |
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| theatom117 | 23rd January 2014 - 02:01 AM Post #7 | |
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I like it though I think it should be Foreign minister and Premier not just Premier in 8. | |
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| Elpidia | 23rd January 2014 - 02:24 AM Post #8 | |
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I disagree, as the Premier sets the foreign ministry's agenda I don't see why he/she should have to get the Foreign Minister's approval. For that matter, it occurs to me that the Premier should be able to dismiss and appoint Ministers at will. A strict interpretation of the Constitution doesn't allow it at present. |
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| CGJ | 23rd January 2014 - 03:04 AM Post #9 | |
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I agree, at present it says: "(25)Cabinet positions are appointed by the Premier, at the start of the term, and then upon the resignation of a minister, or the automatic vacancy of a portfolio." Probably should be amended to say: "(25)Cabinet positions are appointed by the Premier, at the start of the term, and then upon the resignation or dismissal of a minister, or the automatic vacancy of a portfolio. The Premier can, at his or her discretion, dismiss members of the Cabinet." Or something along those lines. |
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| Beatrice | 23rd January 2014 - 04:35 AM Post #10 | |
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For being written at 3 AM I'm glad to see so few errors get past me and thank my fellow Senators for noticing (and correcting) them! As for the matter concerning the Foreign Minister I agree with the Speaker and Senator CGJ. As Resolutions are only up for a few days that would also be an extra measure of bureaucracy which would delay what could be crucial, time sensitive decisions. To satisfy the concern Senator Atom has presented I would note that the bill doesn't prevent the Premier from consulting the Foreign Minister at their discretion, so it leaves the door open for consultation should the Premier feel it is necessary. I also agree that the Premier should be able to appoint and dismiss Ministers at will and would support an amendment to those ends. |
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| Elpidia | 26th January 2014 - 08:23 PM Post #11 | |
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I motion to close the debate and move to vote.
Edited by Elpidia, 26th January 2014 - 08:23 PM.
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| CGJ | 26th January 2014 - 09:12 PM Post #12 | |
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I second this motion. | |
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| Beatrice | 26th January 2014 - 09:22 PM Post #13 | |
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Seconded! | |
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| Chernobereg | 27th January 2014 - 04:48 PM Post #14 | |
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| Mavei | 28th January 2014 - 02:14 AM Post #15 | |
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| theatom117 | 28th January 2014 - 02:38 AM Post #16 | |
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| Elpidia | 28th January 2014 - 04:05 PM Post #17 | |
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The motion has received sufficient seconds and will be moved to vote. | |
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