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Debate: Constitutional Amendment Act – Fifth Amendment (2014); Senators Only
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Topic Started: 19th April 2014 - 03:39 PM (1,061 Views)
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19th April 2014 - 03:39 PM
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The following bill, proposed by Senator DaveIronside and Premier Beatrice, shall be up for debate at least until 4/22/14.
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Constitutional Amendment Act – Fifth Amendment (2014)
An act to amend the Constitution of the Independent Order.
Short Title
(1)This act may be referred to as the Constitutional Amendment Act – Fifth Amendment (2014).
Amendments
(2) Section (10) shall be amended thusly:
"(10) The term of the Senate shall be forty-five (45) days. To run for the position of Senator, the candidate must demonstrate that they have a nation in The Independent Order and that they have made a minimum of six (6) posts in the forum. Nominations shall be opened on the thirty-ninth (39th) day of a Senate term, and elections for the Senate shall be held on the forty-third(43th) through the forty-fifth (45th) days."
(3) Section (22) shall be amended thusly:
"(22) To run for Premier, the candidate must be able to demonstrate that they have had a nation in The Independent Order and have taken an active role in the community for a period no less than forty-five (45) days. This requirement shall be fulfilled by a minimum of twenty (20) non-spam posts to the forums. Furthermore, Premier candidates shall be required to introduce themselves to the members of the Independent Order and take an active role in the conduct of their campaign beyond their initial nomination."
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20th April 2014 - 07:44 PM
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"(22) To run for Premier, the candidate must be able to demonstrate that they have had a nation in The Independent Order and have taken an active role in the community for a period no less than forty-five (45) days. This requirement shall be fulfilled by a minimum of twenty (20) non-spam posts to the forums. Furthermore, Premier candidates shall be required to introduce themselves to the members of the Independent Order and take an active role in the conduct of their campaign beyond their initial nomination."
I support this in principle, but my only concern is how one would enforce the latter part of the rule? I think it may require a clearer definition.
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The following bill, proposed by Senator DaveIronside, shall be up for debate at least until 4/22/14.
Just to add here that the merged version is by both DaveIronside and Beatrice (*cough* and edited by CGJ *cough*)
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20th April 2014 - 07:52 PM
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In terms of "take an active role in the conduct of their campaign beyond their initial nomination". We could say that means they post a statement of some kind about what they would do if elected, kind of like a manifesto.
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20th April 2014 - 08:01 PM
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Just to add here that the merged version is by both DaveIronside and Beatrice (*cough* and edited by CGJ *cough*)  Thank you Senator
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20th April 2014 - 09:24 PM
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In terms of "take an active role in the conduct of their campaign beyond their initial nomination". We could say that means they post a statement of some kind about what they would do if elected, kind of like a manifesto. Perhaps:
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"(22) To run for Premier, the candidate must be able to demonstrate that they have had a nation in The Independent Order and have taken an active role in the community for a period no less than forty-five (45) days. This requirement shall be fulfilled by a minimum of twenty (20) non-spam posts to the forums. Furthermore, Premier candidates shall be required to create a separate topic introducing themselves to the members of the Independent Order and respond to any questions or queries by Independent Order members."
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20th April 2014 - 09:29 PM
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That'd work for me.
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21st April 2014 - 12:29 AM
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"Any questions or queries"? Seems a bit lax, perhaps we should require the GC to hold a debate of sorts using questions submitted by the public, and allow him to filter out frivolous questions.
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21st April 2014 - 12:48 AM
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"Any questions or queries"? Seems a bit lax, perhaps we should require the GC to hold a debate of sorts using questions submitted by the public, and allow him to filter out frivolous questions. Perhaps we should just remove that last part altogether? But the GC (or other non-standing member) holding debates sounds like a good idea.
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21st April 2014 - 12:50 AM
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On second thought it could be hilarious. Perhaps we should leave it in
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21st April 2014 - 12:57 AM
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"Mr Potential Premier, what would you prefer to have on your toast: Olive Oil or hand sanitiser?"
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21st April 2014 - 08:03 PM
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Glad to see this up for debate!
I think the proposals which answer the initial shortcomings of the requirements are good, and agree that we should leave it as-is. I mean, you can tell a lot about a person from their sense of humour, and frivolous questions which catch someone off-guard can offer honest, naked moments which wouldn't be entirely possible with 'sterile' questions.
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21st April 2014 - 08:09 PM
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Well, I'm afraid I'll have to disagree Madame Premier. I was being facetious in suggesting that it be left as is. Obviously candidates should not be required to answer any question.
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21st April 2014 - 09:42 PM
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Either way I encourage people to be creative in their questions to gain as great an understanding as they can of the candidates before them, although the questions should indeed be within reason. ^^
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I find myself sitting on the fence here: while I would support a candidate being required to answer questions, ho does one judge it? By the number of question marks?
What if someone decides? To structure? Their bloody sentence? Like this? 
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"(22) To run for Premier, the candidate must be able to demonstrate that they have had a nation in The Independent Order and have taken an active role in the community for a period no less than forty-five (45) days. This requirement shall be fulfilled by a minimum of twenty (20) non-spam posts to the forums. Furthermore, Premier candidates shall be required to create a separate topic introducing themselves to the members of the Independent Order and be willing to respond to questions regarding or relating to their campaign or work within the region."
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What about state secrets?
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What about state secrets? A willingness to respond does not equate to the direct answering of a question
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What about state secrets?
A willingness to respond does not equate to the direct answering of a question  Gotcha. Although I've always wanted to not answer a question due to "state secrets."
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What about state secrets?
A willingness to respond does not equate to the direct answering of a question   Gotcha. Although I've always wanted to not answer a question due to "state secrets." Just brush it off lightly. "We can neither confirm nor deny whether we have nuclear weapons. Or that."
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Are we talking about a public questioning or a formal debate with other runners for Premier? Maybe a formal debate, with questions from a neutral host, could be easier to enforce - you could require at least one post in the debate to get a candidate's name on the ballot paper (unless they provide a legitimate reason i.e. they're on LOA at the time).
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My worry is that if we start insisting on things like debates etc and then having to check on various forums it makes the administration of the nominations tougher for Avakael to sort out for the elections. I agree we need some measure of ensuring that the person is active but it should be something simple. How about we simply PM someone (lets for this example say the speaker) and then the speaker posts a list of questions the region want answering. The people wishing to stand then have a set time period to post replies to them (we could maybe say they have to answer 25% of the questions asked)
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Since nobody has spoken here for a long time...I beg to move that this Bill be taken to a vote.
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Before that happens, I wish to point out the following mistake:- Quote:
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(2) Section (10) shall be amended thusly:
"(10) The term of the Senate shall be forty-five (45) days. To run for the position of Senator, the candidate must demonstrate that they have a nation in The Independent Order and that they have made a minimum of six (6) posts in the forum. Nominations shall be opened on the thirty-ninth (39th) day of a Senate term, and elections for the Senate shall be held on the forty-third (43rd) through the forty-fifth (45th) days." Correction underlined.
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Before that happens, I wish to point out the following mistake: - Quote:
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(2) Section (10) shall be amended thusly:
"(10) The term of the Senate shall be forty-five (45) days. To run for the position of Senator, the candidate must demonstrate that they have a nation in The Independent Order and that they have made a minimum of six (6) posts in the forum. Nominations shall be opened on the thirty-ninth (39th) day of a Senate term, and elections for the Senate shall be held on the forty-third (43rd) through the forty-fifth (45th) days."
Correction underlined. What would we do without you?
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I now second CGJ's motion, incorporating that one correction.
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*Ahem*
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I vote aye.
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I vote aye. We aren't at vote, CGJ has moved that the bill be put to vote, and it is awaiting seconds.
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Not to be rude or anything, but there is this too, you know.- Tytor
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Before that happens, I wish to point out the following mistake: - Quote:
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(2) Section (10) shall be amended thusly:
"(10) The term of the Senate shall be forty-five (45) days. To run for the position of Senator, the candidate must demonstrate that they have a nation in The Independent Order and that they have made a minimum of six (6) posts in the forum. Nominations shall be opened on the thirty-ninth (39th) day of a Senate term, and elections for the Senate shall be held on the forty-third (43rd) through the forty-fifth (45th) days."
Correction underlined.
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Constitutional Amendment Act – Fifth Amendment (2014)
An act to amend the Constitution of the Independent Order.
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(1)This act may be referred to as the Constitutional Amendment Act – Fifth Amendment (2014).
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(2) Section (10) shall be amended thusly:
"(10) The term of the Senate shall be forty-five (45) days. To run for the position of Senator, the candidate must demonstrate that they have a nation in The Independent Order and that they have made a minimum of six (6) posts in the forum. Nominations shall be opened on the thirty-ninth (39th) day of a Senate term, and elections for the Senate shall be held on the forty-third (43rd) through the forty-fifth (45th) days."
(3) Section (22) shall be amended thusly:
"(22) To run for Premier, the candidate must be able to demonstrate that they have had a nation in The Independent Order and have taken an active role in the community for a period no less than forty-five (45) days. This requirement shall be fulfilled by a minimum of twenty (20) non-spam posts to the forums. Furthermore, Premier candidates shall be required to introduce themselves to the members of the Independent Order and take an active role in the conduct of their campaign beyond their initial nomination."
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8th May 2014 - 12:09 AM
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I second the move to vote, for the version in post #29.
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8th May 2014 - 12:14 AM
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As do I.
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8th May 2014 - 12:21 PM
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As do I. You can't second your own motion...
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8th May 2014 - 12:47 PM
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As do I.
You can't second your own motion...

I count the original motion, CGJ, and the seconds by Tytor and Beatrice. That means two more seconds are necessary.
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8th May 2014 - 01:34 PM
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Good with me.
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8th May 2014 - 02:28 PM
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As do I.
You can't second your own motion... I treated Beatrice's post as a new motion, by bad
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8th May 2014 - 04:22 PM
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Do we have an 'official' system for seconding, or are y'all just making it up on the hoof?
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8th May 2014 - 09:27 PM
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- 8th May 2014 - 04:22 PM
Do we have an 'official' system for seconding, or are y'all just making it up on the hoof? Someone makes a motion, and a majority of Senators must second it in order for it to pass.
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9th May 2014 - 01:58 AM
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Assuming the following members have effectively seconded the motion: CGJ Elpidia Beatrice Tytor Dijel DaveIronside
I will move this bill to a vote within the next 24 hours.
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