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| Topic Started: 19th June 2014 - 10:43 AM (335 Views) | ||||
| DaveIronside | 19th June 2014 - 10:43 AM Post #1 | |||
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Had an unexpected Civil Rights lesson this morning with my 17 year old A-Level students. We were studying Medieval Nottingham. My class are doing fieldwork outside Nottingham Castle and I'm taking photos so we can prove they've actually done the fieldwork themselves. After 20 mins of taking pictures up wanders a Police Community Support Officer (for the non-UK of you, Police without authority to actually arrest people). Rather than a nice polite "Hello Sir" I simply get "Why are you photographing here do you have written permission." My response was, "none of your business". For 15 minutes this PCSO tries threatening me with arrest for various things ranging from "causing a breach of the peace" , "Planning a Terrorist attack" . When I refuse to give him my ID he calls for "Backup" 15 minutes later I've got two PCSO's, two real police and a police dog accusing me of breaking the Anti-Terrorism Act, threatening to arrest me, take my camera etc. When asked why they suspected me of being a terrorist they said it was because I wouldn't give my details. Cue 15minutes more threats of arrest they allow me to leave if I agree to leave the area. I refuse at which point they say they'll give me five minutes or they'll arrest me. 15 minutes later they wander back through the area and I wave at them, they just keep on walking. Just wondered if anyone else had ever had such a stupid Police response to photography as this. Its now become a A-Level General Studies project for my class about Civil Rights in the 21st Century. |
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| Dijel | 19th June 2014 - 12:44 PM Post #2 | |||
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That's pretty poor, but then they are PCSOs, so you get what you pay for, I guess. You never know, though, maybe that castle is gonna be turned into a defence installation again, if the budget gets cut any more
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| Tytor | 19th June 2014 - 01:10 PM Post #3 | |||
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Well, I never. Haven't they ever heard of tourists? | |||
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His Majesty Michael the First, by the Grace of God, King of Tytor and her Colonies, and Lord Protector of Floodwater His Excellency Juvenal Massaquoi, President of Ubakasa, Protector of the Revolution, and Father of His People Factbook -- News -- Press Office Former Governor-General of The Infinite Alliance Former Ambassador to Albion and the Global Right Alliance Former Vice Premier and Speaker of the Senate of the Independent Order Professional Procrastinator In firm opposition to Donald Trump's inevitable reelection campaign in 2020 Non-partisan and proud of it "A witty saying proves nothing." - Voltaire | ||||
| Rhodes | 19th June 2014 - 01:32 PM Post #4 | |||
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.....in other news, the Seaforthian None Of Your Damn Business movement has spread to the UK and is apparently gaining ground...... | |||
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| Achkaerin | 19th June 2014 - 02:03 PM Post #5 | |||
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Unfortunately this is the terrorism Acts gone slightly mad- due to the way the legislation works normally for any other offence you're arrested after the offence and there are very specific points guiding the arrest. Terrorism offences work differently since a suspect is arrested before the crime is committed (planning, conspiracy etc) photographs being one thing that they're supposed to look out for it's why London police get very concerned when they see tourists photographing around Westminster. But seriously what you're describing Dave is overkill. And for the record a PCSO does have the power of arrest but only when there is not a fully trained Police Officer present. |
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| DaveIronside | 19th June 2014 - 02:24 PM Post #6 | |||
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I find it's the fact they need suspicion to demand your details, yet it was the refusal to give details that made them suspect I'm a terrorist. Was tempted to produce my RAF id card though. | |||
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| Tytor | 19th June 2014 - 02:30 PM Post #7 | |||
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I'll bet that would've shut them up quick. | |||
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His Majesty Michael the First, by the Grace of God, King of Tytor and her Colonies, and Lord Protector of Floodwater His Excellency Juvenal Massaquoi, President of Ubakasa, Protector of the Revolution, and Father of His People Factbook -- News -- Press Office Former Governor-General of The Infinite Alliance Former Ambassador to Albion and the Global Right Alliance Former Vice Premier and Speaker of the Senate of the Independent Order Professional Procrastinator In firm opposition to Donald Trump's inevitable reelection campaign in 2020 Non-partisan and proud of it "A witty saying proves nothing." - Voltaire | ||||
| CGJ | 19th June 2014 - 02:35 PM Post #8 | |||
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Woah, the plastic police are almost as bad as Canary Wharf security. Absolute b***ards | |||
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| NordicPeoples | 19th June 2014 - 02:40 PM Post #9 | |||
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Wow.....our school must look well dodgy. Dave getting almost arrested while I spent the day teaching my lunchtime science club how to build a rocket. Disclaimer Should Nottingham Castle mysteriously be targeted by a missile attack I, TheNord, take no responsibility for said action. |
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| Arpeggi | 19th June 2014 - 06:01 PM Post #10 | |||
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Police can be a bit.....hard to work with. | |||
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| CGJ | 19th June 2014 - 06:44 PM Post #11 | |||
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Checks out. |
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| Forena | 19th June 2014 - 08:23 PM Post #12 | |||
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LOL, I had to go to court because a police officer in LA arrested me for taking a video of him while me and my friends were filming for YouTube | |||
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| Mavei | 20th June 2014 - 02:04 AM Post #13 | |||
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Wow, that's a dick move made by the police officers. Just because you want to take a photo and refuse to give them your personal information shouldn't even be the slightest of suspicion. As for your question, I've never been offset by a police officer. But I knew a little prick that always sit on a corner of a grocery store and stopped me for "speeding" every damn day. |
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| Avakael | 20th June 2014 - 01:18 PM Post #14 | |||
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Given that they didn't actually arrest you, it's pretty clear they were just bluffing and intimidating because they've been ordered to by superiors. Probably also some level of racial profiling. | |||
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