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| Debate: Sixth Constitutional Amendment | ||
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| Topic Started: 21st June 2014 - 12:18 AM (455 Views) | ||
| Elpidia | 21st June 2014 - 12:18 AM Post #1 | |
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The following bill shall be up for vote until at least 6/23/14. Explanation of the act provided by the submitter, CGJ: This act: - Reduces the time for nominations from 96 hours to 72 hours, and for elections from 72 hours to 48 hours - Allows the Premier, at their discretion, to rename ministries (e.g. renaming the Minister of Justice the 'Attorney General') - Removes the requirement for the Premier and Vice Premier to occupy a portfolio - Ends the 'candidates available' part in Speaker elections – since we haven't used a nomination system in...well ages - Removes Section (14), which would invalidate the Senate Expansion Act - Fixes some wording to make it easier to understand
Edited by Elpidia, 21st June 2014 - 12:19 AM.
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| Beatrice | 21st June 2014 - 04:31 AM Post #2 | |
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I'm sorry to say that in its current form I would be forced to vote against this. I feel that shortening the nomination and voting windows would be detrimental to the voters as well as opposition and independent candidates alike. Considering that party candidates have a built-in advantage at the polls shortening these windows could create additional hardships for opposition/independent candidates and decrease the choices before the voters. While I'm certain these aren't the intentions of this provision they're still concerns which need to be addressed. Aside from that I have no issue with the remaining provisions of the Amendment. Edited by Beatrice, 21st June 2014 - 04:31 AM.
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| CGJ | 21st June 2014 - 03:30 PM Post #3 | |
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I disagree with this. The combined 48 hours is simply wasteful. I compiled this spreadsheet to show how many people either nominate or vote in the last day of voting/nomination. Only 1 person nominated, and only 3 people voted, on the last day since January. Alternatively, I would support an addition 24/48 hour 'election notice' before nominations begin, to allow smaller or non-party candidates to start prepping their campaign. Edited by CGJ, 22nd June 2014 - 01:35 AM.
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| Beatrice | 22nd June 2014 - 01:45 AM Post #4 | |
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I would support a 'compromise' of eliminating the extra day of nominations (being replaced with the addition of the proposed 24-48hour 'election notice' before they begin) while retaining the present 72-hour period for elections. With the notice period my concerns over nominations would be satisfied. Retaining the 72-hour voting period is also necessary, not only for voter's concerns but also as a measure to prepare for future elections with greater turn-outs. |
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| CGJ | 22nd June 2014 - 02:00 AM Post #5 | |
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I'm not so sure maintaining the 72 hour period is required, but I'll accept it with a notice period of 24 hours.
Edit: Maths was never my strong point... Edited by CGJ, 22nd June 2014 - 02:46 AM.
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| Elpidia | 22nd June 2014 - 02:26 AM Post #6 | |
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I support CGJ's latest. Although if you want to push for a longer election notice, B, I'll support that. | |
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| Dijel | 22nd June 2014 - 07:29 AM Post #7 | |
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I think 24 hours of prior notice is more than enough - effectively giving 96 hours for candidates to get their campaign together. Any longer, and we'd just end up sitting around to run down the clock. | |
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| DaveIronside | 22nd June 2014 - 10:03 AM Post #8 | |
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I think that the compromise we have in place now various people have made suggestions is sufficient. I think it gives enough time for people to be aware and organise themselves. | |
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| Beatrice | 22nd June 2014 - 03:59 PM Post #9 | |
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My concerns are satisfied by C's latest. The nominations proposal is sound along with the preservation of the current voting time period. I have no further issues to bring forth, and support the amended Amendment.
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| Elpidia | 23rd June 2014 - 09:11 PM Post #10 | |
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I move that the bill, including CGJ's amendment in Post #5, be put to vote as soon as the debate period has elapsed (7:18 EST). | |
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| Beatrice | 23rd June 2014 - 09:54 PM Post #11 | |
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Seconded, E. | |
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| DaveIronside | 23rd June 2014 - 09:56 PM Post #12 | |
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Seconded | |
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| CGJ | 23rd June 2014 - 10:16 PM Post #13 | |
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Seconded. | |
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| Elpidia | 25th June 2014 - 10:16 PM Post #14 | |
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May we get a fourth second? |
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| KaiserAdolf | 26th June 2014 - 03:26 PM Post #15 | |
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Seconded. | |
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| Elpidia | 26th June 2014 - 11:32 PM Post #16 | |
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With four seconds the motion carries. Moved to vote. | |
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