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Debate: Representation of the People Act (2014)
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Topic Started: 27th August 2014 - 04:38 PM (401 Views)
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Dijel
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27th August 2014 - 04:38 PM
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Guys, you know the drill, this act is up for debate untill the 30th of August:
- Representation of the People Act (2014)
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Representation of the People Act (2014)
An act to establish a Citizen’s Assembly as a devolved body of the Senate, and to establish an independent Office of Accountability.
Short Title
(1) This act may be referred to as the Representation of the People Act (2014).
Membership
(2) The Citizen’s Assembly shall be a body made up of qualifying members of the Independent Order.
(3) A qualifying member is defined as being one that: (3.1) Has been a member of the Independent Order for fourteen (14) days; (3.2) Has made more than ten (10) non-spam posts on the forums; (3.3) Is not presently serving a ban or other conviction within the region; and (3.4) Has not been expelled from the Assembly within the previous forty-five (45) days.
(4) A qualifying member wishing to join the Citizen’s Assembly must submit a request to the Clerk of the Assembly stating their intent to join, as well as proof of qualification. If the applicant qualifies, the Clerk shall inform the Assembly of the appointment of a new member. Otherwise the Clerk must inform the applicant as to the reason for his rejection.
(5) The Assembly may punish its members for disorderly behaviour and, with the concurrence of two-thirds of its members, expel a member.
(6) An Assembly Member shall automatically vacate their seat if they fail to log into the forum without a declared leave of absence for more than seven (7) days, or if they fail to attend, when not on a declared leave of absence, a roll-call initiated by the Clerk every 31 days.
(7) Members of the Citizen’s Assembly shall be known as such, and shall automatically be granted the suffix ‘AM’.
Powers, authority and responsibilities
(8) Pursuant to Section (20) of the Constitution of the Independent Order, the Citizen’s Assembly is hereby established and shall derive its power and authority from the Senate of the Independent Order.
(9) The Citizen’s Assembly shall have the authority to draft, initiate and debate legislation; delay legislation passed by the Senate for debate, and return such legislation to the Senate chamber; make formal recommendations to the Grand Chancellor, Premier or individual Ministers regarding areas subject to their portfolio; recall, with a vote of at least fifty (50) percent plus one (1) of all Assembly Members, a member of the Senate or Minister; and, with a vote of at least sixty-six (66) percent of all Assembly Members, pass a vote of no confidence for the Government of the Independent Order.
(10) The Assembly shall determine the rules of its proceedings, and make all relevant internal appointments.
Reserved powers
(11) The Senate reserves the right to block legislation passed by the Citizen’s Assembly.
(12) Any legislation passed by the Senate that is subsequently returned or rejected by the Citizen’s Assembly may only be rejected once and delayed for a maximum of seven (7) days
(13) The Citizen’s Assembly may not, so long as it is pursuant to the Constitution the Independent Order, amend the said Constitution, or overturn a decision made by the Grand Chancellor.
Internal appointments
(14) The Citizen’s Assembly shall be responsible for nominating and electing a Chair, a Vice Chair and any other position deemed necessary for the proper functioning of the Assembly.
(15) The Speaker of the Senate shall be responsible for nominating the Clerk of the Citizen’s Assembly, who must then be approved by a majority vote of the Assembly.
Office of Accountability
(16) The Office of Accountability is hereby established, and shall, following an Order-in-Council, inherit the authority and responsibilities of the Ministry of Accountability.
(17) The Head of the Office of Accountability shall be elected, by a majority vote, following nomination by the Premier.
(18) The Office shall be accountable to the Assembly, and the Assembly may, following a majority vote, recall the Head of the Office.
(19) The Head of the Office shall automatically vacate their seat if they fail to log into the forum without a declared leave of absence for more than seven (7) days.
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27th August 2014 - 05:16 PM
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Yaaay!
So guys , thoughts?
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27th August 2014 - 05:37 PM
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Well, its interesting, to say the least. I'll support this, to be sure, but we'll need to find someone to be admin monkey the clerk for this.
Also, will this be replacing our current accountability lot, or will they run paralell to each other?
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27th August 2014 - 05:42 PM
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For clarification please could it be stated somewhere whether serving senate and government members can be members of the Citizens Assembly-
I would assume they can't considering the content of this legislation however to avoid a lot of unnecessary reapplications as people are re-elected or appointed, reshuffled etc I think we should add a point to section 6 that allows for circumstances where an Assembly Member becomes a Senator and then 45 days later loses his seat, this member should not have to resubmit his qualification to be a member each time they aren't occupying another government position otherwise this Act would penalize such a member for being actively engaging in the role of regional government.
Also I did raise some time ago over IRC with you C the possibility of the Attorney General or a user authorized by the Attorney General (otherwise known as an authorized agent) being allowed to sit in the Citizen's Assembly for various regional legal reasons.
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CGJ
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27th August 2014 - 06:22 PM
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Dijel: This will replace the current MiniAccount 
Ach: I've put some thought into that, and ultimately as I would prefer to allow ministers the opportunity to be held accountable to the CA. However, I believe Senate membership should be reason for disqualification. Specifically though, people elected to the Senate will vacate their seat, and thus 3.4 (or 3.5 below) would not be applicable for them rejoining.
How does this look? (changes underlined)
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Membership
(2) The Citizen’s Assembly shall be a body made up of qualifying members of the Independent Order.
(3) A qualifying member is defined as being one that: (3.1) Has been a member of the Independent Order for fourteen (14) days; (3.2) Has made more than ten (10) non-spam posts on the forums; (3.3) Is not presently serving a ban or other conviction within the region; (3.4) Is not presently a member of the Senate; and (3.5) Has not been expelled from the Assembly within the previous forty-five (45) days.
(4) A qualifying member wishing to join the Citizen’s Assembly must submit a request to the Clerk of the Assembly stating their intent to join, as well as proof of qualification. If the applicant qualifies, the Clerk shall inform the Assembly of the appointment of a new member. Otherwise the Clerk must inform the applicant as to the reason for his rejection.
(5) The Assembly may punish its members for disorderly behaviour and, with the concurrence of two-thirds of its members, expel a member.
(6) An Assembly Member shall automatically vacate their seat if they fail to log into the forum without a declared leave of absence for more than seven (7) days; if they fail to attend, when not on a declared leave of absence, a roll-call initiated by the Clerk every 31 days; or if they are elected as a member of the Senate.
(7) Members of the Citizen’s Assembly shall be known as such, and shall automatically be granted the suffix ‘AM’.
Honorary Membership
(8) The Premier, and Most and Right Honourable Ministers, as appointed by Order-in-Council, shall be entitled to apply to the Clerk of the Assembly to become Honorary Members of the Citizen’s Assembly; unless they are already a Member.
(9) Section (3) shall not apply for the appointment of Honorary Members.
(10) An Honorary Assembly Member shall have the ability to present legislation and speak at debates, but shall not be entitled to vote or participate in motions.
(11) Honorary Members of the Citizen’s Assembly shall be known as such, and shall automatically be granted the suffix ‘HAM’.
Edited by CGJ, 27th August 2014 - 06:24 PM.
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28th August 2014 - 03:03 PM
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Okay, so in addition to the text in the post above, Tytor brought up an interesting point about whether Senators should also be able to expel CA members (since CA members can also expel Senators).
Thoughts?
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28th August 2014 - 03:09 PM
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I guess accountability should work both ways, I like the idea of the Assembly but if Senators can be replaced then so should CA members.
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3rd September 2014 - 03:18 PM
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Okay, I've merged the text to include the above revisions (including Dave's suggestion), and added that the Vice Chancellor shall be entitled to serve as an Honorary Member...without technically being an honorary member 
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- Representation of the People Act (2014)
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Representation of the People Act (2014)
An act to establish a Citizen’s Assembly as a devolved body of the Senate, and to establish an independent Office of Accountability.
Short Title
(1) This act may be referred to as the Representation of the People Act (2014).
Membership
(2) The Citizen’s Assembly shall be a body made up of qualifying members of the Independent Order.
(3) A qualifying member is defined as being one that: (3.1) Has been a member of the Independent Order for fourteen (14) days; (3.2) Has made more than ten (10) non-spam posts on the forums; (3.3) Is not presently serving a ban or other conviction within the region; (3.4) Is not presently a member of the Senate; (3.5) Is not otherwise prohibited from serving; and (3.6) Has not been expelled from the Assembly within the previous forty-five (45) days.
(4) A qualifying member wishing to join the Citizen’s Assembly must submit a request to the Clerk of the Assembly stating their intent to join, as well as proof of qualification. If the applicant qualifies, the Clerk shall inform the Assembly of the appointment of a new member. Otherwise the Clerk must inform the applicant as to the reason for his rejection.
(5) The Assembly may punish its members for disorderly behaviour and, with the concurrence of two-thirds of its members, expel a member.
(6) An Assembly Member shall automatically vacate their seat if they fail to log into the forum without a declared leave of absence for more than seven (7) days; if they fail to attend, when not on a declared leave of absence, a roll-call initiated by the Clerk every 31 days; or if they are elected as a member of the Senate.
(7) Members of the Citizen’s Assembly shall be known as such, and shall automatically be granted the suffix ‘AM’.
Honorary Membership
(8) The Premier, and Most and Right Honourable Ministers, as appointed by Order-in-Council, shall be entitled to apply to the Clerk of the Assembly to become Honorary Members of the Citizen’s Assembly; unless they are already a Member.
(9) The Vice Chancellor, upon the written consent of the Grand Chancellor, shall be entitled to the rights and privileges of Honorary Membership to the Assembly, excluding Section (12).
(10) Section (3) shall not apply for the appointment of Honorary Members.
(11) An Honorary Assembly Member shall have the ability to present legislation and speak at debates, but shall not be entitled to vote or participate in motions.
(12) Honorary Members of the Citizen’s Assembly shall be known as such, and shall automatically be granted the suffix ‘HAM’.
Powers, authority and responsibilities
(13) Pursuant to Section (20) of the Constitution of the Independent Order, the Citizen’s Assembly is hereby established and shall derive its power and authority from the Senate of the Independent Order.
(14) The Citizen’s Assembly shall have the authority to draft, initiate and debate legislation; delay legislation passed by the Senate for debate, and return such legislation to the Senate chamber; make formal recommendations to the Grand Chancellor, Premier or individual Ministers regarding areas subject to their portfolio; recall, with a vote of at least fifty (50) percent plus one (1) of all Assembly Members, a member of the Senate or Minister; and, with a vote of at least sixty-six (66) percent of all Assembly Members, pass a vote of no confidence for the Government of the Independent Order.
(15) The Assembly shall determine the rules of its proceedings, and make all relevant internal appointments.
Reserved powers
(16) The Senate reserves the right to block legislation passed by the Citizen’s Assembly.
(17) The Senate may punish members of the Assembly for disorderly behaviour and, with the concurrence of two-thirds of its members, expel a member.
(18) Any legislation passed by the Senate that is subsequently returned or rejected by the Citizen’s Assembly may only be rejected once and delayed for a maximum of seven (7) days
(19) The Citizen’s Assembly may not, so long as it is pursuant to the Constitution the Independent Order, amend the said Constitution, or overturn a decision made by the Grand Chancellor.
Internal appointments
(20) The Citizen’s Assembly shall be responsible for nominating and electing a Chair, a Vice Chair and any other position deemed necessary for the proper functioning of the Assembly.
(21) The Speaker of the Senate shall be responsible for nominating the Clerk of the Citizen’s Assembly, who must then be approved by a majority vote of the Assembly.
Office of Accountability
(22) The Office of Accountability is hereby established, and shall, following an Order-in-Council, inherit the authority and responsibilities of the Ministry of Accountability.
(23) The Head of the Office of Accountability shall be elected, by a majority vote, following nomination by the Premier.
(24) The Office shall be accountable to the Assembly, and the Assembly may, following a majority vote, recall the Head of the Office.
(25) The Head of the Office shall automatically vacate their seat if they fail to log into the forum without a declared leave of absence for more than seven (7) days.
Edited by CGJ, 3rd September 2014 - 03:33 PM.
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3rd September 2014 - 03:20 PM
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Looks good to me. I can't see anything that would stop me voting for it.
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4th September 2014 - 04:14 PM
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- 3rd September 2014 - 03:20 PM
Looks good to me. I can't see anything that would stop me voting for it. ^ This.
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4th September 2014 - 04:27 PM
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My concerns have been addressed so I'm of the same mind as Dave and Matt.
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4th September 2014 - 05:32 PM
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In that case, I beg to move that this bill be carried forward to a vote.
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4th September 2014 - 05:39 PM
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I second this motion.
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4th September 2014 - 05:43 PM
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6th September 2014 - 01:02 AM
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I believe I put this up for vote, then?
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6th September 2014 - 11:35 AM
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- 6th September 2014 - 01:02 AM
I believe I put this up for vote, then? It needs three seconds (e.g. so four people support the motion), so if you support the motion then yes, it goes it a vote
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6th September 2014 - 11:47 AM
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Well as I also second this that's five assuming Avakael also agrees.
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7th September 2014 - 02:01 AM
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I also second the motion.
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7th September 2014 - 02:15 AM
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That's enough seconds, I'll bring up a voting topic etc.
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