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Topic Started: 10th August 2015 - 11:17 PM (659 Views)
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Well as many of you know I spent the last two weeks or thereabouts in Israel seeing "how the IDF does stuff.".

It was an interesting experience in terms of watching 18 year old draftees yell at civilians and wandering around on what felt like the surface of the sun while wearing body armour. I did however get a few days "exploring".....one of which included bricking myself at the top of the Mount of Olives as a truck full of Palestianians turned up and the draftees thought it would be a good idea to start the conversation by pointing rifles.

Anyway thought I'd post some of the more tourist friendly pictures I took as Jerusalem is an AMAZING city.


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This is one of the old city gates, it was riddled with gunfire in the Six Day war and the Israeli's picked the bullets out the wall and turned them into a holy container for a prayer that you see in most doors in Israel. Figured it was cool.

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Casual Saturday morning at the Western Wall

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Church where allegedly Jesus was crucified. The ladder is there because during the times of Muslim occupation they used to lock the monks inside, they would then climb out the window using the ladder and pilgrims would fill baskets with food that were hauled up. Today it remains because six different church groups own the building and all six have to agree before anything can be done there, they can't agree to move the ladder.

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View from the Mount of Olives shortly before nearly being involved in the incident.

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Old City Jerusalem at night

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Inside the Hall of Remembrance at Yad Veshem during my day there. The Hall of Rememberence is built on soil brought from every camp a Jew died at, incidently its also where Heads of State make speeches when they visit the centre and they can't speak German. Also got to hear a lecture from the head of the Simon Westhenthal centre and Professor Yehudi Bauer

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Auschwitz Train Car at Yad Veshem

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Judea Desert ....not a fun place.

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Day chilling at the Dead Sea, bit of advise, NEVER swallow it....I barfed like a dog, never get it in your eye, it felt like my eyeball was on fire.....otherwise a fun day.

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Very cool Dave, thanks for sharing.
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Really sweet. Was this work or pleasure?
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Do the people that can hold a speech in german a bigger room, or a room where they must kneel, or the broom cabinet?
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Samsarah..... Welcome to the region by the way. This was a work trip. I serve with the royal air force and I was seconded to the Israeli forces for two weeks to observe their practices, got chance to sight see a little too. But not as much as I'd like.

El prez..... When Merkel was there she gave her speech in English with some in Hebrew...... Guess she'd learnt it phonetically. Find it strange the educators there push the line that not all Holocaust perpetrators were German and not all Germans helped carry it out, yet the German ban seems to be kind of blame
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Yeah, especially if you consider that Germany was a haven for east-european jews for hundreds of years and that german might be the language that was influenced the most by jiddish.
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So what I can gather form this conversation is that before I travel to Israel I should learn German and speak obnoxiously loud at every possible opportunity?

Nice photos, Dave :) Hope you're having fun
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And order Strudel CGJ. Don't forget to order strudel...
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Strudel really is more like an austrian thing, you know... To find anything that is universally german is quite hard, since all the different tribes and historical divisions. We had the romans and the barbarians, the slavs, the frisian, the christians. Pommerian culture is totally different from Silesia and that was different from the french-dominated west. Bavarians were influenced by the Austrians a lot, the Northern people by the Dansk and Swedish. At times the Netherlands were kinda a part of Germany, and then they weren't but belonged to the same cultural area...

And on top of this there are the more modern divisions, between the Prussian North and the Habsburger South, plus the Second German Reich only being the Kleindeutsche Lösung (small-german solution) and didn't even include all of the german people at the time. And it was far from uniting all the people that once were german under the Holy Roman Empire. Then there was the division between east and west, which spawned totally different cultures on both sides of the wall.

Seriously, the only thing that's the same is probably that every german culture valued bread and beer. And produced it's own versions. I don't like beer, but there are strong differences between watery Kölsch, bavarian white beer and what they drink in Hamburg. And I heard the beer in Ostpreussen used to be completely different from that.

See, that's what happens when you make a light-hearted joke. You get an essay.
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Sooo... did you get a glass that was one meter high? And what was it filled with? Half Bier, Half Schnapps? Or Half Helles, Half Dunkles?

Since we are at the topic: There's a "drink" in Northern Germany called Lütt un Lütt. The name means A Small One and A Small One, Or Small and Small and comes from either Plattdütsch or Lower German. If you order it you get two glasses one with Korn (although the tradition is a bright or yellow Aquavit with caraway) and one small beer. Traditionally you would then drink the two together, mixing them in your mouth. There's even a song about it from the 70s.
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Well, I guess I'll get a Strammer Max now. I'll leave it to your fantasy what interpretation of the world will go in my mouth.
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Heya Dave, looks like you had a decent time at any rate. Can't say I envy you crashing about the desert in full gear, but maybe you're better off thinking of it as one really big beach :P

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