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| DEBATE - Situation in Nueva Ardia | ||||
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| Topic Started: 20th December 2015 - 10:38 PM (324 Views) | ||||
| NordicPeoples | 20th December 2015 - 10:38 PM Post #1 | |||
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| Gadshack | 21st December 2015 - 07:42 AM Post #2 | |||
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General Ran stepped up first to address the security council. "Toshikawa would like to address this matter as our dishonorable effort to successfully contain such an evil threat. We are shamed that a Toshikawan man such as Hase Tutyame has reaigned chaos on the Andean region. And in our efforts for peace and talks with President Tero Melos, the Nueva Ardian government has betrayed the Shogun's good nature. As we speak our forces are hard at work to retrieve our national leader and symbol. It is suspected an explosion during a meeting was suppose to kill Shogun Sora Yoshimo, it has instead killed President Melos. This was an attack orchestrated by the Four Truth's and President Melos, just as the massecre of 3,000 Tosh8kawans, 800 of them Muslim, was planned. Nueva Ardia has been giving these terrorist a haven, including exclusive access to the corrupt black market to carry out attacks. With access to the Matilda Canals, the Four Truth's can strike anywhere with a Muslim population. This needs to be contained with not only various categories of sanctions, but military action." "I speak on behalf of all Toshikawans, that no matter what, we will not step down." Edited by Gadshack, 21st December 2015 - 08:36 AM.
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| Achkaerin | 28th December 2015 - 04:17 PM Post #3 | |||
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OOC- Prod![]() Colonel Steven Ayanami If there was one reason Steven had been chosen to be Achkaerin's representative on the Security Council it was because he was the wife of Kristina Ayanami the Marqueeza of Artaxia though in fairness that was a side reason the main reason was that because he was Kristina's wife he also happened to be the step father of Rion Ayanami which meant that he was able to have all the latest and up to date intelligence available from Achkaerin at a moment's notice. He'd seen some information relating to the Nueva Ardia situation and it didn't totally convince him. "Granting a safe haven to a terrorist group does not justify the waging of a full scale war against Nueva Ardia, rather that would suggest a corrupt leadership within Nueva Ardia that needs to be removed and replaced and that can be done without risking a total war. Let us be clear that the resolution before us requests that we debate a variety of actions up to and including military action. If we pursue the military approach then it needs to be thought through and it needs to be justified. So since Toshikawa sits on this council I shall ask General Ran the following: What evidence do you have that Nueva Ardia supports the Four Truth's? What evidence do you have that the massacre you speak of is connected? What can you tell us about Hase Tutyame? Since such information will help us decide how best to deal with this. If this comes to military action, what do you intend as post invasion Nueva Ardia?[1]" Steven leaned back in his chair awaiting General Ran's response. [1] OOC- I'm aware that Gad will likely have something planned that will render this last question's answer irrelevant since Nueva Ardia will be coming off the map but ICly it's still a question that would be asked. |
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| Gadshack | 28th December 2015 - 06:20 PM Post #4 | |||
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What evidence do you have that Nueva Ardia supports the Four Truth's? "Tero Melos himself, endorsed the organization publically to all the world on their national news network calling Hase a revolutionary and calling his destruction just. In addition, Intelligence reports, that are widely available to this council, indicate that Hase Tutyame is conveniently hiding in Nueva Ardia, all the signs are there and this country has a history of being an unstable mess quite frankly that foolishly endorses such terror under the guise of revolution." What evidence do you have that the massacre you speak of is connected? "Tero Melos endorsed the Four Truth’s before the attack occurred, with the information we have with logic applied it's only apparent Nueva Ardia has acted as an enabling factor." What can you tell us about Hase Tutyame? Since such information will help us decide how best to deal with this. "Hase has a history since the end of the warring period, for over two decades he has preached racial and cultural hatred, wanting to safeguard Toshikawan sovreignty specifically from Muslim extremist. Throughout the early 2000s he was suspected to be connected to several buddhist antimuslim groups reaponsible for massecres and stabbings in Islamic communities. He was captured and arrested for hate speech, no evidence was found until today that he was connected to those, if we would have acted more aggressively then, none of this would happen, but we took the route of hard evidence instead of a true gut feeling" He glared at the Achkaerinese. "We was released after serving 10 years, now he's done everything openly, killing of thousands, endorsed by the Nueva Ardians." If this comes to military action, what do you intend as post invasion Nueva Ardia? "Stabalize the country and bring justice to the region, for too long Nueva Ardia has fostered crime all over the world with false promises of fixing the issue, corrupt. And of course, end Hase Tutyame's reign." |
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| NordicPeoples | 4th January 2016 - 06:32 PM Post #5 | |||
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OOC- Not sure if this is still current but as no one has said anything for a while I'll move it to a vote on the 6th Jan unless anyone says otherwise. | |||
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| Achkaerin | 4th January 2016 - 07:11 PM Post #6 | |||
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OOC- Just noticed something the resolution still states 'The General Assembly' so that should read 'The Security Council' | |||
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| Achkaerin | 4th January 2016 - 10:21 PM Post #7 | |||
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"The key to situations like this is always the government of the territory in question, in this case Nueva Ardia. Normally we would seek to investigate government involvement with the terrorists however true to form President Melos has made his support quite obvious therefore we can operate on the established basis that the Nueva Ardian government is complicit in the activities of the Four Truth's. The next logical question is how we deal with this? By which of course we mean sanctions. Considering the 'isolation' of Nueva Ardia from pretty much every international trading bloc, alliance and convention not to mention the contempt with which their governments have successively viewed and treated such things it would seem that the usual first choice avenues of diplomatic and economic pressure will either be ignored, minimally effective or take too long to have the desired effect. Considering the stakes I do agree with General Ran that the military option may well be the only viable option OOC- While I think about it due to this post there will be need for a by-election concerning the Albion seat on the Security Council. I also think that since with Toshikawa obviously pursuing the military option and Achkaerin supporting it that unless anyone objects we can count the resolution in so far as it called for a discussion has having taken place and therefore carrying the resolution. I think if this is to be formalized then a separate resolution laying everything out (similar to the CTOMM one) would be what we need. |
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