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| Debate - Regional Offices | ||||
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| Topic Started: 24th July 2017 - 07:47 PM (215 Views) | ||||
| Achkaerin | 24th July 2017 - 07:47 PM Post #1 | |||
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GENERAL ASSEMBLY SUBMISSION FORM Formal Name of Submitting Nation(s): First Empire of Rokkenjima Nations involved: All CTO Members Title of Submission: Regional Commonwealth Offices Act Draft Resolution:
Any other details: Proposals for the concept of a Regional Commonwealth Office have been discussed unofficially in the past with the goal of furthering the level of openness and accessibility of the Commonwealth. Such CRO would be established in Cotf Aranye, Alba Karinya and Albion to represent Commonwealth interests while facilitating diplomatic activities. These Offices could also be selected to serve as alternative headquarters for agencies and organs established by the Commonwealth in the future. As Ardia hosts the main Headquarters for the Commonwealth it would essentially serve as the CRO for Ardia, as the need for such a subsidiary office would essentially be negated.
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| DaveIronside | 24th July 2017 - 08:27 PM Post #2 | |||
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Jacob Longe stood, "It is my, and East Moreland's belief, that the CTO is too prone to being nothing more than a taking shop, we spend far too long discussing things, dragging our heels and then even when things are decieded we do nothing.....or rather most do nothing. Put it this way, the situation in Uppsala has been going on for over a year almost, in that time the following nations have put boots on the ground, East Moreland, Achkaerin, The Iwi, Lodja and most recently Himeyama. Now if we consider when this sorry saga begun Uppsala was the capital of the UNP, and Nya Aland stepped up and orchestrated possibly the biggest humanitarian effort Mundus has ever seen, with again only East Moreland and Achkaerin boots on the ground, we see that this whole effort has involved six nations helping the city, 50% of which are in the CTO. Where is everyone else? They had a chance to discuss a resolution, they had a chance to vote on it, and now have a chance to act upon it......they've done nothing. I'd be pleased if the proposer would explain to me how setting up new buildings for this organisation gets more than three members to step up to their obligations? Frankly I see it as a waste of resources, these buildings require staffing, more ambassadors, more support staff for each of the nations there. It also means more discussion, the proposal says it is seeking further accessibility and openness of the Commonwealth to its Member States, when has that ever been denied here? The proposal also claims to Recognize the benefits which would be possible through the establishment of Regional Commonwealth Offices, personally I see none other than fragmenting the international community, creating a 2nd layer of a talking shop that already fails to put words into action. Unless I hear a very persuasive counter argument East Moreland will oppose this resolution." | |||
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| Achkaerin | 24th July 2017 - 10:05 PM Post #3 | |||
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Cheryl stood up after Sir Jacob had sat down this was once again typical CTO. "I quite agree with Sir Jacob. There is seemingly no point to this resolution other than saying "let's have more places where we can meet." I mean seriously why are we even discussing this when there are more pressing matters to be thinking about - this is the first resolution in a long time that hasn't come from the Secretariat, Achkaerin or East Moreland I think. And it seeks to create something completely superfluous to our requirements, in that this resolution would only at face value be worth anything if it raised the possibility of the CTO in terms of a permanent home relocating out of Rokkenjima but that's not the discussion. However like Sir Jacob I'm happy to give Rokkenjima's representatives the chance to convince me that is not what it reads like." |
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| Achkaerin | 1st August 2017 - 08:35 AM Post #4 | |||
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OOC- giving 24 hours notice before this gets put to vote. | |||
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| Beatrice | 3rd August 2017 - 03:03 AM Post #5 | |||
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OOC: Reiterating my need for more time before this goes to vote as we deserve an opportunity to mount a defense in this matter... | |||
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| CGJ | 4th August 2017 - 10:20 AM Post #6 | |||
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The Dartfordian delegate, who's name I have forgotten again, rose to speak. He had been reluctant to make a statement on the matter, and Hematite had been insisting Dartfordia abstain. However, he owed the Rokkenjiman delegate a favour (a long story to do with the canteen stopping the sale of cheese toasties), and this was the favour. "The purpose of regional assemblies, as proposed, are perfectly reasonable. Critically it does not mandate the organisation to establish such offices, but rather simply requests and authorises the Secretary-General to do so. I do not believe it is Rokkenjima's intent for this Resolution to result in multiple meeting places, but rather for the administrative burden to spread and be far more open and accountable than it is currently, on a far away Rokkenjiman island for many peoples. This, I do believe, would help grow this organisation in a way that appeals to the many, and without much additional burden on the organisation." |
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| DaveIronside | 4th August 2017 - 02:48 PM Post #7 | |||
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The last time Jacob had seen the Dartfordian he'd been forlornly looking at an old toastie menu in the canteen, once Jacob had told the Morelanders of the cheese toastie ban they'd narrowly avoided a riot. Now the man was standing and frankly not making much sense, Jacob wondered if it was cheese toastie withdrawal. "Frankly I'm not swayed, I fail to see how setting up other offices makes us more accountable, we have an organisation that has ways of ensuring members and officials are accountable, need I remind you of the situation we narrowly avoided with Tim Carpenter, how will these make us more accountable, and to who? None of us have been elected to our positions, we've been appointed by our governments, they have the right to remove us at any time they wish." Jacob had not heard anything to change his mind and so sat back down. | |||
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| CGJ | 4th August 2017 - 07:07 PM Post #8 | |||
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"It is a question partially of accountability, but also of openness. By being in multiple continents we will be closer to those we serve, perhaps not us physically - but the CTO staff. This could give us a much greater breadth of experience, knowledge and social background. Meaning no disrespect to staffers here, but about 90% of non-senior civil service staff in our headquarters are Rokkenjiman. This does not deliver the type of diversity required for an international civil service." | |||
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| Gadshack | 4th August 2017 - 11:21 PM Post #9 | |||
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| Beatrice | 5th August 2017 - 07:06 AM Post #10 | |||
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![]() Michael Kensington, Imperial Liaison to the Commonwealth "The work of the Commonwealth is global and, when it works as intended, impacts the lives of many Peoples across Mundus. It is my belief, and the intent of this Resolution, to see the work of the Commonwealth take place on a more local level within the regions and nations which comprise the Commonwealth. As we look to put these goals into effect the Commonwealth, and those bodies which make it up, must create a presence in each region of Mundus, helping to effect an atmosphere where those who are most in need may assisted swiftly, efficiently and without relying on the backbones of systems and approaches we sought to eliminate with the very formation of the Commonwealth. The goal of this Resolution is not to fragment the Commonwealth or its work, but to supplement it, bring greater access to the People, and move towards a structure which better serves the goals and mission of the Commonwealth." "Regional Offices will provide supportive services to Commonwealth members that would not be best suited for the Palace of Nations while serving as venues for the facilitation of diplomatic activities on a more local level. Regional Offices shall further be capable of performing representation and liaison functions with regional governments and non-governmental entities, facilitating cooperation between the Commonwealth and regional organizations, providing administrative, supportive and common services to both Commonwealth interests in the region and partner organizations. Furthermore, the Commonwealth would have at its disposal centres capable of providing for the security and safety of Commonwealth operations and staff, reducing a reliance upon individual contributions and establishing an atmosphere which truly speaks to an organization built upon the spirit of cooperation." "Through the establishment of Regional Offices the Commonwealth shall take up a truly international identity, putting into place resources and individuals who may work on a more local and direct level with the people who make up the Commonwealth. This will see people who are familiar with the regions and their needs taking a more direct role in the work of the Commonwealth, supporting the work of the broader Commonwealth while having infrastructure in place which will be supportive in pursuing the work of the Commonwealth." "Disaster relief efforts, humanitarian operations and other crises which require immediate responses would be further enhanced through a network best capable of supporting the Commonwealth's work in all the spheres it engages. There would be no 'second layer' as, at its heart, it would still be the Commonwealth. The work of the General Assembly, the Secretariat and other core institutions would still take place here at the Palace of Nations. That work, however, would be enhanced through having resources and capabilities 'in the field' so to say which are not dependent upon counting upon individually volunteered contributions on a case-by-case basis." "Rokkenjima is willing to work with our Dartfordian colleagues to drive home the merit of the Proposal as well as address concerns held so that we may move towards putting in place an international infrastructure that enhances the Commonwealth, its ability to act, and the missions it presently pursues as well as addressing those it will face in the future." |
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| DaveIronside | 7th August 2017 - 10:53 PM Post #11 | |||
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Sir Jacob Longe stood, "I am not convinced, what we see in this resolution is action designed to solve something that is not the major problem. Just because we have a regional office it does not mean nations will take action. Let us look at Uppsala, imagine an Albion Regional Office existed, what your seeming to claim is those Albion nation would have been able to act more speedily. Well its been almost a year since the biggest humanitarian disaster to hit Mundus took place and we have one Albion nation giving aid, and they aren't even CTO members. This is despite a resolution on Uppsala having been passed and three CTO nations being present on that continent. They are nations familiar with that region and have not even sent a single aid package to help yet alone took a direct role. Regional offices are not needed, action is and if simply having a shiny new building with the words "Albion's Regional Office" or something above the door brings them to act then shame on them." Jacob looked down at his notepad. "We see you talking of diplomatic activity taking place on a local level. We already have a mechanism for this, most continents, regions etc have their own organisations, wouldn't it make more sense for the CTO to work with these using the Secretary General as a form of say Foreign Minister. For example something like the Academica crisis, which the CTO took no action in, it was the Alba Karinya organisation and then the Mhorish and Illumica Co-operative Agency that took action. If this is happening why do we need a CTO Regional office when a simple liaison would be effective? It comes back to the point, that while this organisations membership is content to not act at all the number and location of offices are irrelevant. "As for helping effect an atmosphere where those who are most in need may be assisted swiftly opportunities exist for that. The CTO has two umbrella organisations, the Mundus Refugee Council and Mundus Health Organisation. The Refugee Council has four members, two of which are helping in Uppsala, meanwhile the Health Organisation has three members. These organisations can take action semi independent of the CTO General Assembly, and have so in those cases. Why would a regional office speed this up? Furthermore in the past this organisation has been slow to act even when urgent. During the Mercian genocide we had East Moreland technically invade a nation because the CTO was too busy taking zero action while we crossed the boarder. Having a regional office would not have sped up this resolution at all. This brings me to another issue, what when this affects two regions, Alba Karinya and Aranye, and what if they have conflicting opinions? We then have to have a second debate, slowing down reactions completely." "Regional offices will see us looking for voulenteered contributions. The CTO have no military forces and these would still need to be raised on a mission by mission basis. I give you the example of Uppsala again, an Albion CTO Regional Office would have had no contributions from locals to utilise, meaning that once again we'd be relying on the current situation, which sees just East Moreland and Achkaerin on the ground. If your talking about humanitarian supplies stockpiles of these again are not practical in being kept, we have no idea where, when, or what kind of emergency will take place and it is better to respond directly from a home nation regardless of their place on Mundus rather than first trying to work out what is needed, checking against inventory in a regional HQ, then having to dispatch whatever force contributions have been put forward, because as we know they may not be any locally, and then we'd have to go pick them up and then go into theatre. So perhaps three journeys, first to get troops together in the home nation, then to a regional HQ, then to the operational theatre, when not having this system would mean two journeys thus saving time." "I think however we are missing the major problem facing the CTO. It is not local accountability because frankly the organisation has failed on being accountable several times, nor does it have anyone other than heads of state to be accountable too. None of us are elected, none of us are appointed by our citizens with a mandate. We are here to represent our governments and they will hold us each individually accountable as representatives. The problem is also not speed of response, the Mercian Genocide and Uppsala situation both showed nations can respond rapidly, the first East Moreland aid entered Uppsala less than four hours after an emergency was declared, yes this was a small contingent of troops training at our base in what was then the UNP, but our next wave landed in Krokom around 24 hours after the emergency, I believe the Achkaerin contingent was not too far behind. If we can move half way across Mundus so quickly we have to ask what stopped others? Finally it is not nations in regions such as Alba Karinya, Albion etc not talking, mechanisms exist for that. The simple answer then is apathy. Nations around this table are not living out the principles of this organisation, and adding an extra layer of talk is not going to solve this and frankly if the creation of a regional HQ to stroke someones ego in Alba Karinya is what is required to bring about humanitarian action following a disaster like Uppsala or a genocide like Mercia then this is an organisation that is doomed to failure and East Moreland would have no part in it. So perhaps we should ask those nations not involved in Uppsala a simple question to get to the bottom of this situation.....why are they not there?" |
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| Gadshack | 8th August 2017 - 01:47 AM Post #12 | |||
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[im redacting PC participation. I was initially driven OOCly to respond but i can't find a legitimate reason for Tokulel or Port Calta to have the need or reason to be in the CTO] | |||
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| Beatrice | 10th August 2017 - 06:37 AM Post #13 | |||
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Mr. Kensington took a moment to review a message he had received before addressing Sir Jacob. "While I would enjoy the opportunity to dispute your arguments Pyrena Castle has asked that I request the withdrawal of the proposed Resolution with the full intent to re-introduce it at later time." | |||
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