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Topic Started: Nov 30 2007, 02:32 PM (792 Views)
klynch
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Hilbert o Bridge and Tamby up. Get any sometime playing with a #1 line so he can get any sembelence of confidence back. Get Tamby on or 1 or 2 lines b/c he is more skilled then anoy other player we might put out there. If the Isles are afraid of his defensive ability, then only put him out there in offensive positions but somethg has to be done.
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???????

There are so many places I take issue with that post (including understanding parts of it).

First, if Tambelini was ready for the Islanders, don't you think he'd be up here by now? We went through the same thing with Nillson last year. People were wondering why Nillson wasn't up with the big club but Teddy Ballgame wasn't having him come up. Now he's in Edmonton and has a wopping 5 points in 17 games plus a trip back to the minors. Now we have Tamby in the Nilsson boat. Is it that he didn't work hard on his D as has been rumored (like Nilsson) or that he just isn't good enough? I don't know, but to tell me that Tambelini is ready to step in and give the consistent effort and defensive play that Hilbert does, you're nuts. No way.

Second, who knows more- Nolan or us? He sees both the Isles and B-port play. And I think he knows what he's doing. He has a system in place (which I for one like) and has guys who can do it. Hilbert is one of those guys. Tambelini is not- at least not right now. I'm going to go with Nolan's judgement on this.

Third, stop overreacting becasue he missed an open net v. the Rags. yeah it was bad, but Straka missed one for the Rags as well. I don't hear Rags fans wanting him in Hartford. Hilbert has 2 points in his last 4 games which is 2 more than he had his first 25 or so and he plays great D. He's a 3 rd line guy and Tambelini was terrible in camp. Even with Hilbert's O struggles, Tambelini hasn't been able to unseat him. THAT should tell you something about Tambelini.

I'm so sick of hearing about Tambelini. It is nothing against you or your post, but so many people are clamoring for this kid and he hasn't shown he can hack it. I have no reason to disagree with Ted or Garth's judgement yet. It is like Ted says, "You coach who you have, not who you wish you have". Wishing Tambelini was an NHL calibre player doesn't speed his development.
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klynch
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I like Hilbert and i love his effort, but he couldn't put the puck into the ocean. He has no touch at all, and at the NHL level you need to burry that puck. It would be fine if it was once or twice but he does this ALL the TIME.
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I don't know why I am joining this...

BUT.

Anyone ever consider that he is working his butt off to GET INTO THE POSITIONS to miss?

Different take - yeah, he isn't finishing - but if everyone on the team worked as hard as a few of them, we'd have some scoring.

Just my 2 cents.
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Cain,Nov 30 2007
02:59 PM
Anyone ever consider that he is working his butt off to GET INTO THE POSITIONS to miss?


:rofl:

I get your point, but that was funny.
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Hilbert couldnt go to the bridge as he'd have to pass waivers, and the Isles arent going to do that, nor should they risk him. Until the Islanders trade for better scoring talent, Andy is still going to get(blow) his chances in the lineup everynight.

It's frustrating watching him miss, but like Cain said, guys like Bergie dont even work hard enough/or have the hockey sense to get into positions like that. The answers are not at the Bridge or they wouldnt be at the Bridge. Sooner or later (hopefully much sooner) Hilbert will bury those, although everyone is losing patience waiting for it to happen.

Bates is a waste, wish we could package him up with Bergie and get an experienced winger who could score 15-20 goals.
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Webb20,Nov 30 2007
03:12 PM
Hilbert couldnt go to the bridge as he'd have to pass waivers, and the Isles arent going to do that, nor should they risk him. Until the Islanders trade for better scoring talent, Andy is still going to get(blow) his chances in the lineup everynight.

It's frustrating watching him miss, but like Cain said, guys like Bergie dont even work hard enough/or have the hockey sense to get into positions like that. The answers are not at the Bridge or they wouldnt be at the Bridge. Sooner or later (hopefully much sooner) Hilbert will bury those, although everyone is losing patience waiting for it to happen.

Bates is a waste, wish we could package him up with Bergie and get an experienced winger who could score 15-20 goals.

You're giving up WAY too early on Bergenheim Webb. I can understand the frustration with him, but to package him with anybody to get a 15-20 goal guy is ridiculous at this point. He was scratched the other night and will learn that he needs to produce at a high level to stay with the club. This is also the argument against Hilbert. If I was coach, and wether he is doing the little things or not, his ass would be in the press box for all these easy goal misses. we could easily bring up Bootland, Jackman, Colliton, Comeau, etc to do the "little" things. We need more scoring.

And Ted made a fantastic point in an interview the other night saying that if we would just bury 1 or 2 on the PP when we get the opportunities, our scoring problems wouldn't look all that bad.

But at this point I think it would be wise to give Tambellini or Walter a shot on a scoring line and get some minutes to get something done. To me, letting Hilbert continue to play on the 1st or 2nd line showing what he has thus far is irresponsible on Nolan's part. Point Blank. Theres no way one of the other younger and hungrier guys would miss 5+ OPEN NET shots like Hilbert did. It just wouldn't happen. Look around the league, i see a fluke missed open net shot here and there, but most guys make the most out of opportunities. Everyone is allowed a mulligan or 2. But this is getting to the point of absurdity.
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Islander4cups,Nov 30 2007
02:44 PM
???????

There are so many places I take issue with that post (including understanding parts of it).

First, if Tambelini was ready for the Islanders, don't you think he'd be up here by now? We went through the same thing with Nillson last year. People were wondering why Nillson wasn't up with the big club but Teddy Ballgame wasn't having him come up. Now he's in Edmonton and has a wopping 5 points in 17 games plus a trip back to the minors. Now we have Tamby in the Nilsson boat. Is it that he didn't work hard on his D as has been rumored (like Nilsson) or that he just isn't good enough? I don't know, but to tell me that Tambelini is ready to step in and give the consistent effort and defensive play that Hilbert does, you're nuts. No way.

Second, who knows more- Nolan or us? He sees both the Isles and B-port play. And I think he knows what he's doing. He has a system in place (which I for one like) and has guys who can do it. Hilbert is one of those guys. Tambelini is not- at least not right now. I'm going to go with Nolan's judgement on this.

Third, stop overreacting becasue he missed an open net v. the Rags. yeah it was bad, but Straka missed one for the Rags as well. I don't hear Rags fans wanting him in Hartford. Hilbert has 2 points in his last 4 games which is 2 more than he had his first 25 or so and he plays great D. He's a 3 rd line guy and Tambelini was terrible in camp. Even with Hilbert's O struggles, Tambelini hasn't been able to unseat him. THAT should tell you something about Tambelini.

I'm so sick of hearing about Tambelini. It is nothing against you or your post, but so many people are clamoring for this kid and he hasn't shown he can hack it. I have no reason to disagree with Ted or Garth's judgement yet. It is like Ted says, "You coach who you have, not who you wish you have". Wishing Tambelini was an NHL calibre player doesn't speed his development.

Tambellini is not in the same boat as Nilsson, don't try to lump them together. They are two different players and people. Tambellini plays with ten times more heart and hustle than your typical Nilssons, Kovalevs, Yashins, whoever else you want to put in there. Tambellini forechecks, skates hard, and backchecks. He is an offensive-minded player, and he will eventually put up points in the NHL. He may not be an offensive savior, but he can definitely contribute.
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Webb20,Nov 30 2007
03:12 PM
Hilbert couldnt go to the bridge as he'd have to pass waivers, and the Isles arent going to do that, nor should they risk him. Until the Islanders trade for better scoring talent, Andy is still going to get(blow) his chances in the lineup everynight.

It's frustrating watching him miss, but like Cain said, guys like Bergie dont even work hard enough/or have the hockey sense to get into positions like that. The answers are not at the Bridge or they wouldnt be at the Bridge. Sooner or later (hopefully much sooner) Hilbert will bury those, although everyone is losing patience waiting for it to happen.

Bates is a waste, wish we could package him up with Bergie and get an experienced winger who could score 15-20 goals.

:cheers:

Well said.
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Tamby had 30 goals last season while Nilson had 12. They are not the same person. If anyone things that someone that is consistently scoring over a point a game at the AHL level can't come up and contribute to a team that needs scoring.....
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Lbeach14,Nov 30 2007
05:46 PM
Tamby had 30 goals last season while Nilson had 12. They are not the same person. If anyone things that someone that is consistently scoring over a point a game at the AHL level can't come up and contribute to a team that needs scoring.....

then he's named Ted Nolan???
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if tamby wanted to be up here so damn bad...he would've busted his ass off before the season. same goes for bergenheim...I mean that kid has the nerve not to sign a contract in time. has to sit out for a whole season. if these so called young players want to play in the nhl so bad, then SHOW IT DAMN IT! BUST YOUR ASS OUT THERE! LET 'EM KNOW YOUR THERE!

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Hilbert does so much for the team defensively, that I could care less he can't hit the net. I love role players like him - because he represents a niche that is overlooked. I love the underdog and his game is solid otherwise.

Same as Park, although it goes against the statement above, because he has been solid offensively as of late.

It's players such as Park and Hilbert that round out a team.

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what does Bates add that we are not getting from Park and others? Play him for a week to show he is healthy then trade him
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The Isles need a true goal scorer...we all know that. I think that is the one piece that would really make this team a top tier team in the conference. The goaltending is great and the D plays well enough to hold other teams to 3 goals or less/game. Sure there have been two stinkers this season for the D, but over all you can't really complain about the D.

The PK has been good also. The PP...well, we all know the answer to that one.

How do the Isles obtain a sniper? I don't have the answer to that one, but I really think that is all that is missing right now. They have guys who can take face offs, grind the corners, play physical, and good goaltending...just need that goal scorer.

Can someone phone Garth...? :rofl:
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Mezz21,Nov 30 2007
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The Isles need a true goal scorer...we all know that. I think that is the one piece that would really make this team a top tier team in the conference. The goaltending is great and the D plays well enough to hold other teams to 3 goals or less/game. Sure there have been two stinkers this season for the D, but over all you can't really complain about the D.

The PK has been good also. The PP...well, we all know the answer to that one.

How do the Isles obtain a sniper? I don't have the answer to that one, but I really think that is all that is missing right now. They have guys who can take face offs, grind the corners, play physical, and good goaltending...just need that goal scorer.

Can someone phone Garth...? :rofl:

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Hey guys, I really think we need another Hilbert thread. :lol:
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It's one thing to have Hilbert on the team...but he should only be a 4th line player and a PKer...3rd line players should chip in some O and he has proven for two years now that he is not capable of that.
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Looks like Tamby will be here soon...
http://www.newsday.com/sports/hockey/islan...0,2127358.story
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